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 Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: SkeeterEater]
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09/19/17 03:14 PM
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Bullet20XrD
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clearly someone didn't measure correctly. 3/4 of in inch isn't realistic for a fish to shrink or grow. Im not sure who measured wrong but someone did. ^^^ This ^^^
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/19/17 03:16 PM
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HARD WORKN HAROLD
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Well, I have multiple degrees and I am an elder with the First Episcatorian Church of Alba, Texas and none of this makes any sense. I've done my own research, it boils down this. A wise old electrician once told me, if you don't like the rules, don't play. 
DON'T LET THE CLOTHES FOOL YA
Life is too short to fish with a dead cricket!
PB: wife of 40 years
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/19/17 03:17 PM
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rut-roe
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I dint mean no slot I just meant drop back to 21 and do away with slot should of worded it different my bad. I do like fishing fork it's a awesome lake.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/19/17 03:35 PM
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JIM SR.
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This happens every year, 'slot length limit' is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of while tournament fishing. There's no way that any harvesting is going on during these tournaments. Nobody is thinning out the unders... duh. They are all released so what's the point of a slot. Why not in this controlled environment, fish for biggest fish, period. Eliminates all the problems...bring what you catch to the scales, Biggest wins,...what a concept. Release them all, have fun. 
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/19/17 03:45 PM
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Bassalong
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I've read only about the first five replies to this post, but as a general rule I think the person measuring the fish should make every effort to get the fish to measure.
Turn it over, angle it etc unless the rules specify a particular way to measure the fish.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/19/17 04:05 PM
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west tex angler
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Seems to me that if the tournament director has requested that the game wardens be present, and the fish that was ruled an under after weigh in, is re-weighed by the GW and pronounced 1/4" over the slot, we have a bigger problem. What is the law "enforcement " officer even doing there if his decision is discounted.?
There seems to be a real problem with this, if money is at stake.
I spoke with another guy I know about this and he said he had also experienced the fish shrinking.
I would still be pi****, if it happened to me. Remember, its not you against the tournament dir, its you and the game warden!
PB 9lbs 13oz
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/19/17 04:06 PM
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Can't fish
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There's only two ways I could see a 3/4 inch difference as even possible.
1. The weigh master distorted the fish by mashing his face on the bump board.
2. The weigh master failed to pinch the tail.
The TPWD method of pinching the tail is not an option or a suggestion. It is THE proper way to measure a fish.
Suppose you caught a fish and using your "option" to measure it was 15 and 7/8". Game Warden checks using the proper method, pinches the tail, and you are now in possession of an ILLEGAL 16 and 1/4" fish.
Tournament officials can not "choose" how to measure as choosing wrong would be allowing illegal fish to be taken. Either on the high end or low end of the slot.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/19/17 04:09 PM
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Can't fish
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WTA beat me to it. 
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/19/17 04:19 PM
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coachallentca
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3/4 is alot of difference. I have seen a measuring stick be bend. Could that have happened? I had my own bad experience at SBB event. I measured it a little under 16 and when I got in it just touched ( I measured it again before I got out of the boat before weigh on). It seemed the weigh master tried everything he could to get it to touch. I had the walk of shame but the GW was great and did not give me a ticket. Now if it's close I measure it with 2 different measuring boards and the will ask a different boat to measure it just to make sure.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: PowPowOl'Son]
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09/19/17 04:22 PM
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Tony_Wornick
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I love posts talking negatively about something that have the words "I heard" in them.  I heard that.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: Can't fish]
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09/19/17 04:23 PM
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Tjbev13
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There's only two ways I could see a 3/4 inch difference as even possible.
1. The weigh master distorted the fish by mashing his face on the bump board.
2. The weigh master failed to pinch the tail.
The TPWD method of pinching the tail is not an option or a suggestion. It is THE proper way to measure a fish.
Suppose you caught a fish and using your "option" to measure it was 15 and 7/8". Game Warden checks using the proper method, pinches the tail, and you are now in possession of an ILLEGAL 16 and 1/4" fish.
Tournament officials can not "choose" how to measure as choosing wrong would be allowing illegal fish to be taken. Either on the high end or low end of the slot. THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
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09/19/17 04:24 PM
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the skipper
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 This is straight off the TPWD website. If this is NOT how the measuring guru is doing it then I would think he is screwing more than one guy or gal that are right on the line. Either way, someone measured wrong
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: west tex angler]
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09/19/17 05:30 PM
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fouzman
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Seems to me that if the tournament director has requested that the game wardens be present, and the fish that was ruled an under after weigh in, is re-weighed by the GW and pronounced 1/4" over the slot, we have a bigger problem. What is the law "enforcement " officer even doing there if his decision is discounted.?
There seems to be a real problem with this, if money is at stake.
I spoke with another guy I know about this and he said he had also experienced the fish shrinking.
I would still be pi****, if it happened to me. Remember, its not you against the tournament dir, its you and the game warden! The TD doesn't ask the GWs to be there. They are at EVERY big money tournament on Fork due to two factors, the slot limit and repeated attempts to cheat in Big Bass events at that lake over the years. The GW isn't there to measure fish and call tiebreakers. That's the TD's responsibility and his decisions are final unless you appeal in writing within 15 minutes. GW is there to enforce the law and keep a level playing field for everyone in the event. Confusion on length aside, shame on the angler for not understanding the rules and remedies, BEFORE this happened.
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Trouble at Fork
[Re: FishVibesTv]
#12432928
09/19/17 05:57 PM
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west tex angler
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I understand.
I didn't even know until this post that these bass can reduce in length while in the live well.
All I know is, I hope it never happens to me!
Good luck guys
PB 9lbs 13oz
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