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#12395817 - 08/21/17 11:56 PM How to hook Baits made with ElazTech?
befuddled Offline
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Registered: 08/17/03
Posts: 534
Loc: Sulphur Springs, TX, USA
Strike King (and maybe others?) makes several baits made with ElazTech. Several years ago, someone made soft plastic baits with a similar material that was somewhat difficult to use since Trigging the bait didn't work well - the hook wouldn't easily penetrate the extremely soft and pliable material. Are these Strike King baits, like the Dream Shot, Ocho or Z Too, made with the same or similar material? My question is, what is the best method to rig these baits when fishing around grass or wood? I remember that eventually the only way I could really fish baits made with this material was Texposing the hook which caused many hangups, but I know times have changed....

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#12395901 - 08/22/17 07:01 AM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
collincountytx Online   content
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Registered: 04/08/08
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The strike king baits that are elaztec have 3X on the packaging

Heating the hook some with a lighter before you rig the plastic works

Superglue also helps

There are multiple DIY bait keeper methods you could try
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#12395924 - 08/22/17 07:26 AM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
Ken A. Offline
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Registered: 10/02/06
Posts: 8608
Loc: Trophy Club, TX
Try the Mustad KVD Grip Pin hooks.

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#12396054 - 08/22/17 08:56 AM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
bassmanrudy Offline
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Registered: 01/30/15
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Loc: Bossier City, LA
trying to thread a zman bait or one of the other elaztech baits on a shaky head screw lock is QUITE frustrating!!! I like how the bait stretches but dang!
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#12396060 - 08/22/17 08:59 AM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: bassmanrudy]
Brent S Online   content
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Registered: 07/04/13
Posts: 2906
Loc: Eagle Mountain Lake
Originally Posted By: bassmanrudy
trying to thread a zman bait or one of the other elaztech baits on a shaky head screw lock is QUITE frustrating!!! I like how the bait stretches but dang!


Screw locks are nearly impossible with the 3x finesse bait. You need a shaky head or hook with a barb keeper of some sort.
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#12396068 - 08/22/17 09:03 AM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
Wes H Offline
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Registered: 04/16/16
Posts: 188
Loc: San Antonio, Texas
I believe he is talking about how to texpose the hook point itself. If so, that is the reason I stopped using them also, I felt like it wasn't going to give me a good hook set through the plastic. I now only use them on ned rigs and drop shots with the hook point exposed.
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#12396092 - 08/22/17 09:13 AM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
LinkLowrance Online   content
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Registered: 07/06/15
Posts: 417
Loc: On the Wheel
Z-Man makes some good baits out of this material. I hook it the same, you just have to mess with it until it goes.

Getting the hook wet first normally helps.

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#12396126 - 08/22/17 09:50 AM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
Matt Jackson Offline
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Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 1117
Loc: Rockwall, Tx
I can't tell you how many times I've stuck my finger trying to rig the Z Man baits.
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#12396277 - 08/22/17 11:34 AM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
Big Kahuna Fishing Offline
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Registered: 05/21/17
Posts: 240
Loc: Mcgregor, Texas
I thought one of the advantages of those types of plastic is they are very buoyant??

Is there other plastics just as buoyant??
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#12396302 - 08/22/17 11:45 AM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
Fishinfellow Offline
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Registered: 01/12/10
Posts: 2932
Loc: North Richland Hills, TX
I don't know if it's all of their plastics or not, but don't try to dip'n die them, they will dissolve!
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#12396397 - 08/22/17 12:46 PM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
Marooned Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 1468
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
The only way I rig an ElaZtec or Z-Man bait is on a shaky head with a weed guard or jig with a weed guard. This lets you thread the hook into the bait and pull it out to expose the hook, which is then protected by the weed guard. Lost too many fish imbedding it in the plastic.
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#12396490 - 08/22/17 02:02 PM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
Brad R Online   content
Extreme Angler

Registered: 03/09/15
Posts: 1553
Loc: Texas
The original poster means, I think, the great difficulty of routing a hook through the plastic itself. Same thing, though, with trying to twist a centering pin into it or skin hooking it.

I hate the stuff but I occasionally use it and I pre-rig the plastics and just take my time to get them on carefully. I use a tiny drop of super glue, the only plastic I use this on. Out on the water? Not as easy so I make up a few "for the road."

One thing is for certain: once you get it on, especially if glued, fish can't easily tear a tail off or beat it up much. They last a long time.

The question about do other plastics float? Yes, Xcite plastics have no salt and tend to float. Others, too, I am sure.

Brad

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#12396497 - 08/22/17 02:09 PM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
Matt Jackson Offline
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Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 1117
Loc: Rockwall, Tx
From my pouring experience salt = sinking and no salt = floating all with the same plastic
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#12396528 - 08/22/17 02:35 PM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
Bobby Milam Online   content
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Registered: 07/13/14
Posts: 2962
Loc: Arlington
They say these are 10X stronger plastics than traditional

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#12396691 - 08/22/17 04:28 PM Re: How to hook Baits made with ElazTech? [Re: befuddled]
i-Fish Online   content
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Registered: 06/07/16
Posts: 498
I like Z-man products and am testing a few of their baits in some very common techniques. I bought the Palmetto bugz for flipping and the Boar Hogz for c-rigs and t-rigs to give them feesh a little different look. I like the idea of the bait being buoyant in order to garner bites that I may not have gotten otherwise from more pressured fish. Time will tell! I hook them the same way I would any other soft plastic you just need to be a little more careful because of their elasticity.
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