Lane Palmer makes on of the best plastics ypu could ever use. I am currently in Indiana visiting old friends and we fished a private pond as well as several lakes. I had a Crappie box with me, doesen't everyone carry one?, and used Laners white hot thumper at the pond. Immediately caught large Red Ear bluegills as well as largemouth bass. My buddy put his wigglers away as it was a lot more fun to cast/ retrieve than throw a cork out and sit and wait. Needless to say I am going back to Cedar Creek without my box!