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#12359324 - 07/26/17 12:19 PM 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke
fewilcox@att.net Offline
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Any one using a 4 stroke outboard. What are your dislikes o likes. Pros cons 2 vs 4 stroke

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#12359461 - 07/26/17 01:21 PM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: fewilcox@att.net]
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I run a 2014 Yamaha SHO and it's without a doubt the best I've ever had. Quiet, sips gas, easy and efficient to change the oil and filter and all you have to do is bump the starter and it's on. I'll never ever own another 2 stroke. Now, stand by and wait for the naysayers, they're coming I promise. They'll start off by telling you their 2 strokes will out run a 4 stroke and while that's debatable if all you're looking for is speed buy an Allison and mount a 400hp on the back of it. Me, I want something that's dependable, efficient, quiet and easy to maintain. I'm done.
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#12359583 - 07/26/17 02:19 PM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: GIG'EM AGGIES]
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Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Now, stand by and wait for the naysayers, they're coming I promise.


My '96 2-stroke is loud, smokes a lot, has a major drinking problem (gas and oil), and really needs a kick in the azz on cold mornings. grin

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#12359598 - 07/26/17 02:32 PM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: fewilcox@att.net]
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I have been running a Honda for over 10 years now.

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#12359665 - 07/26/17 03:16 PM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: Ted Martin]
GIG'EM AGGIES Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ted Martin
Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Now, stand by and wait for the naysayers, they're coming I promise.


My '96 2-stroke is loud, smokes a lot, has a major drinking problem (gas and oil), and really needs a kick in the azz on cold mornings. grin



Funny Ted but you're prolly telling the truth.

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#12359999 - 07/26/17 06:38 PM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: fewilcox@att.net]
fewilcox@att.net Offline
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i heard that they are heavy and keep the nose of the boat up and the tail down.

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#12360089 - 07/26/17 07:34 PM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: fewilcox@att.net]
GIG'EM AGGIES Offline
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Originally Posted By: fewilcox@att.net
i heard that they are heavy and keep the nose of the boat up and the tail down.


If that's true there are a hail of a lot of Skeeters running around with their nose up and tail down. My Skeeter doesn't have that problem until the pedal hits the floor and then it's nose up for about 5 seconds. Look at a Ranger with a 250 on the back, the water is up to where the cap meets the hull.
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#12360158 - 07/26/17 08:14 PM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: GIG'EM AGGIES]
Ted Martin Offline
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Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Originally Posted By: Ted Martin
Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Now, stand by and wait for the naysayers, they're coming I promise.


My '96 2-stroke is loud, smokes a lot, has a major drinking problem (gas and oil), and really needs a kick in the azz on cold mornings. grin



Funny Ted but you're prolly telling the truth.


absolutely that's the truth!

Been saying for years as soon as that faststrike dies i will upgrade, but it keeps running, and its paid for.

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#12360588 - 07/27/17 06:37 AM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: Ted Martin]
GIG'EM AGGIES Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ted Martin
Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Originally Posted By: Ted Martin
Originally Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Now, stand by and wait for the naysayers, they're coming I promise.


My '96 2-stroke is loud, smokes a lot, has a major drinking problem (gas and oil), and really needs a kick in the azz on cold mornings. grin



Funny Ted but you're prolly telling the truth.


absolutely that's the truth!

Been saying for years as soon as that faststrike dies i will upgrade, but it keeps running, and its paid for.


Ted you may be really really old before you get to upgrade, those old Johnson Faststrike's were a beast. I had one on the back of a Skeeter once and not only was it fast it never failed to start and never broke on me.
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#12360636 - 07/27/17 07:33 AM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: fewilcox@att.net]
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I had a Yamaha 2006 250 HPDI and loved it. I just got a 2016 250 SHO in January 2017, and I have been tremendously impressed. The hole shot is unbelievable, mid range power is better and much quieter than my 2 stroke. The Yamaha SHO is actually lighter, I want to say 35 lbs. I love not having to buy oil anymore since I do not use an oil injector anymore. My HPDI seemed to drink oil pretty fast.
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#12360806 - 07/27/17 09:27 AM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: fewilcox@att.net]
T Bird Offline
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The differences I am familiar with are fuel, oil and maint. cost are higher on 4 strokes. Yamaha Sho motor cylinders cannot be repaired. On avg. 4 stroke weight minimally heavier than 2 stroke. Initial purchase cost considerably higher than 2 stroke.

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#12361647 - 07/27/17 06:29 PM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: fewilcox@att.net]
fewilcox@att.net Offline
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well I heard that the heavier weight lifts the nose while sitting still. trying to make a decision on which boat to but. ive only had 2 strokes so don't kmow about 4 strokes. thanks for everyones info.

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#12361677 - 07/27/17 07:08 PM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: fewilcox@att.net]
Chris B Offline
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A 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke is no modern SHO engine. Not sure why they have been mentioned. Those older 4 strokes were heavy and didn't perform anywhere close to the two strokes. That's why you don't see them on many bassboats. They are very reliable engines that run forever. Many offshore heavy boats run them.
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#12361679 - 07/27/17 07:08 PM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: fewilcox@att.net]
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Originally Posted By: fewilcox@att.net
well I heard that the heavier weight lifts the nose while sitting still. trying to make a decision on which boat to but. ive only had 2 strokes so don't kmow about 4 strokes. thanks for everyones info.


All the weight is in the back, engine, batteries, fuel, so yeah it's gonna set lower in the back regardless whether it's a 2 or 4 stroke. You ask the difference between 2 and 4 strokes and you got some answers. As far as it being more expensive to operate, that's simply not true. 4 strokes use less gas and oil and no one can prove different. They do cost more but more manufacturers are hanging them on the back of their boats for a reason. Even the cheap Tracker boats are using them.
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#12361689 - 07/27/17 07:19 PM Re: 2004 Yamaha 4 stroke [Re: fewilcox@att.net]
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Apples and oranges. 2004 4-stroke and the Sho. Ridicules comparisons. That 2004 is an absolute bulletproof efficient workhorse....but heavy & not know as "performance" motors for bass boats.
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