All it takes to be a butterbar O1 is a college degree. That, and the ability to be completely inept while giving the appearance of being in charge.

Can we stop arguing. I want to hear more about your legendary recruiting tactics.

That was funny!

Please point out where I lumped them all together.

I'll wait......

Stop being soft.

Plenty of educated nonsuit wearing types out there. Suits are for suckers anyway

I hear that. Sucker in a suit got ripped up one side and down the other for undue influence today, granted it was not his fault it was his team. I wear a suit to funerals and weddings. Outside of that I am out on that carp.

Impossible. If you have a degree......I bettah not catch you without a suit on son!

Colleges that offer degrees whose primary future is a minimum wage job should lose their public funding. Nobody who is going to make $7 an hour should be allowed to take on $100k worth of debt to do it.

It's fine if you want to flip burgers, style hair, fix cars, or build stuff, but you don't need a college degree to do it and colleges shouldn't be allowed to trick you into thinking that your future involves something that pays more than you could make as a 16 year old kid working at wal mart. Business degrees, STEM, etc. are great, but there are far too many kids in stuff that isn't job-related at all. I read a story one time about a foreign student who came here and got a PhD in Art History and racked up $300k in debt and went back to their home country where the debt doesn't follow them and never paid a dime for it.

JMHO

I eat lunch with 6-8 older fishing buddies couple times a week...with one exception,all of us are college grads and all of us were/are self employed,partners or top management...subject came up one day about what did you learn in college that benefitted in your working career and none of us could come with any value of a degree except to get your foot in the door.....
I do believe going to college does help you socially in that it exposes you to a lot of people generally that come from different backgrounds....that allows you to interact better with people at whatever company you go to work after graduation...that's probably not a good explanation of what I'm trying to say but you take somebody that spent 4 years as a manual laborer right out of high school then applies for a job as a salesman for a fortune 500 company,he's probably not gonna get hired but if he does,his co-workers are gonna treat him like he got off a turnip truck...
incidently the the one fishing buddy above without a college degree managed a large ag-related business and probably made more money than all of us...

I eat lunch with 6-8 older fishing buddies couple times a week...with one exception,all of us are college grads and all of us were/are self employed,partners or top management...subject came up one day about what did you learn in college that benefitted in your working career and none of us could come with any value of a degree except to get your foot in the door.....
I do believe going to college does help you socially in that it exposes you to a lot of people generally that come from different backgrounds....that allows you to interact better with people at whatever company you go to work after graduation...that's probably not a good explanation of what I'm trying to say but you take somebody that spent 4 years as a manual laborer right out of high school then applies for a job as a salesman for a fortune 500 company,he's probably not gonna get hired but if he does,his co-workers are gonna treat him like he got off a turnip truck...
incidently the the one fishing buddy above without a college degree managed a large ag-related business and probably made more money than all of us...