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Want to know why your boat is not running as well? #12322680 07/03/17 10:41 PM
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Have seen several service stations with the yellow out of order bags on the pump handles. You want to guess why? The pumps are vapor locking from all of the ethanol in the fuel. I tested some regular unleaded last Thursday and it tested 28%.


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Re: Want to know why your boat is not running as well? [Re: gary purdy] #12322796 07/04/17 12:14 AM
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Yep the moonshine is causing lots of problems. And if they don't veto some new regulations it's about to get worse.


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Re: Want to know why your boat is not running as well? [Re: gary purdy] #12323006 07/04/17 03:00 AM
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I think this should be posted on all topics on tff. If this is a wide spread deal I think everyone should at least be aware of the potential problems associated with this type of fuel.

Re: Want to know why your boat is not running as well? [Re: gary purdy] #12323035 07/04/17 03:24 AM
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THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY IS A SCAM ON US ALL!!!

At absolute BEST it's a net ZERO in pollution help. It helps some corn farmers and oil companies...


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Re: Want to know why your boat is not running as well? [Re: gary purdy] #12323277 07/04/17 12:53 PM
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I've read of something called double blending.

Re: Want to know why your boat is not running as well? [Re: gary purdy] #12323289 07/04/17 01:05 PM
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Good old EPA...


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Re: Want to know why your boat is not running as well? [Re: gary purdy] #12323294 07/04/17 01:10 PM
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Gas distributors cheat all the time. Ethanol is cheaper and they can add more ethanol to the blend when they fill the tanker trucks to raise the profit margin. Gas stations don't know what they are getting.
When you see a sudden fuel mileage drop in your car or truck on a certain tank of gas you can about bet that you are getting a lot more corn fuel. Fuel mileage of 10% blend can be as much as 4% less than pure gas. If you are getting gas with 25-30% corn then your mileage may drop as much as 15-20%. The more corn the worse the mileage. The stoichiometric value of pure gas is 14.7:1. For ethanol it is 9:1.
Stoichiometric value is the air to fuel ratio required for a perfect fuel burn where all fuel is ignited.
It therefore takes 1.63 times as much ethanol to produce the same power as pure gas.
Ethanol is the biggest ponzi scheme ever placed on us by the Gubmint.
The ethanol subsidy was replaced by huge tax breaks for the producers. It's is still a subsidy just another way of covering it up. That's why ethanol is so cheap.

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Re: Want to know why your boat is not running as well? [Re: gary purdy] #12324196 07/05/17 02:45 AM
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What kind or brand name testers should I use.? Also Pat and Gary , do you bring a container to pump into, test and then determine weather it is suitable to pump into your car or boat?

Re: Want to know why your boat is not running as well? [Re: gary purdy] #12324223 07/05/17 03:11 AM
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It's easy to test.
Any clear container put a level of water, mark that level.

Put in pump gas, any moonshine or water will show up above the mark.

There's no easy answers the regulations are sneaky in that any common carrier getting fuel at a loading rack has to take ethanol with it. A fuel distributor can load his own truck with pore gas and deliver. And those are the ones servicing the pure fuel sites.

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A glass test tube will work. Doesn't have to be real big but needs to have the volume marks on it. Fill to any mark with water. Maybe an inch or so deep. Then fill to the top with gas. Hold thumb over top and shake well so the ethanol combines with the water and look to see how much the water level has risen.
Simple math will tell you if the water level has risen 10% or more. Say you started with 100ml of water and afterwards you have 120ml of water then you know that the ethanol content is approx 20% by volume.
Independent Gas stations with the cheapest gas will more than likely have the highest ethanol content.

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Re: Want to know why your boat is not running as well? [Re: gary purdy] #12326931 07/06/17 08:14 PM
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Say what you want about Alabama, but my local gas station has ethanol free as an option on every pump.


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