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#12322856 - 07/03/17 08:00 PM Another Flourocarbon Question
Blackhill Offline
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Registered: 03/01/17
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Ok, I quit flourocarbon after a very bad relationship a while back. Fishing Mono and braid but of course my feel for the bite has been less. So, I bought some new quality flourocarbon and I am going to work on my knots and retyping issues but what would you throw on that rod? Jigs and plastics? Mostly bite sensitive baits?

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#12322938 - 07/03/17 09:16 PM Re: Another Flourocarbon Question [Re: Blackhill]
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Anything you'd like to use it for....

A MYTH is that Fluorocarbon doesn't stretch. It does. It is only SLIGHTLY less stretchy than regular old mono. The thing I like about it is that it's a tiny bit stronger for a given diameter than mono(along with the tiny bit of less stretch). That's really about it. It isn't invisible to fish. I have used the stuff (InvisX) and fish fry will literally swim circles around it. So, I think they see it just fine.

That said...I use InvisX for everything except heavy heavy grass and pads. For that, it's Power pro 65.
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#12322960 - 07/03/17 09:29 PM Re: Another Flourocarbon Question [Re: Blackhill]
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Invisx is all I use and have no issues.

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#12322978 - 07/03/17 09:40 PM Re: Another Flourocarbon Question [Re: Blackhill]
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I would use Fluro everyday for most applications. Check the stretch own your own vs mono. You only need about of 150 feet of space on land to to do this.

Good Fluro can be used for a long time with stretching and a swivel to take care of line twist. It is very durable in most cases.
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#12323078 - 07/03/17 10:42 PM Re: Another Flourocarbon Question [Re: Blackhill]
SAKS Offline
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Flouro doesn't snap back like mono when stretched which is why people seem to think it has low or no stretch. Truth is it will stretch like Steez said. The feel aspect comes from the fact that flouro is a more dense material which transfers vibration better. Use flouro anywhere you want to except where braid is needed. As far as knots just be slow and careful. I use a San Diego Jam and it works fine.

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#12323102 - 07/03/17 10:59 PM Re: Another Flourocarbon Question [Re: Blackhill]
Clint H. Offline
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Like above post said. When flouro stretches it doesn't bungee back. It stays stretched.and probably weaker. I've been told f.c. has a molecular structure more similar to glass than a nylon monofilament. Probably why it doesn't do well with bad kinks.
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#12323291 - 07/04/17 08:07 AM Re: Another Flourocarbon Question [Re: Clint H.]
Brad R Online   content
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Originally Posted By: Clint H.
Like above post said. When flouro stretches it doesn't bungee back. It stays stretched.and probably weaker. I've been told f.c. has a molecular structure more similar to glass than a nylon monofilament. Probably why it doesn't do well with bad kinks.


These comments from Clint and others are correct. There are two different things going on to differentiate mono and fluoro from each other: elasticity and plasticity. Elasticity refers to an object that can be placed under a load where it elongates but then snaps back, more or less, to its original size and length. Example: a rubber band. Plasticity is the ability or property of being able to be elongated but not the ability to then return to its original length and shape. Example: a stick of juicy fruit chewing gum.

Mono is more elastic; fluoro is about equally plastic but not as elastic.

And, fluoro does NOT burn from tying knots if it is "dry" and it actually has a lower thermal conductivity than mono. What hampers the knot tying is fluoro is just less "bendable." So, you can slobber on the knot as it is being formed but what it actually does is help it pull down tighter by reducing friction hampering a snug knot. Tying it dry doesn't "burn" the line any more, actually it'd be less, than mono would. It is just a harder material to snug up.

I like fluoro for leaders; I use it on one reel as a mainline and I struggle with it compared to mono or braid. But, many guys are so adept at casting that it is no issue for them at all.

Good stuff: yes, it is much less visible in clear water, it is much heavier so it sinks faster, it is not affected by freezing (ice fishermen use it for this reason), sunlight and temperature, etc. It lasts longer than mono which degrades pretty fast. And, once it has been stretched it is better for sensing a bite or nibble.

Brad

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