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#12260367 - 05/24/17 08:20 AM What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On?
Jig-N-Spoon Offline
Angler

Registered: 04/27/04
Posts: 307
Loc: Canyon, TX
Been getting bit on the fry bite with 1/4 oz. Lucky Strike and Strike King square bills thrown on a Dobyns 704 CB and Curado 51E series with 8-10 lb mono line. I don't particularly like the outfit as I think even this rod is too stiff for the small bait and keeping better fish hooked up a low percentage deal. Switched out the #6 hooks for #5's and that helped but I still think I need a more forgiving rod, maybe something like an All Star popping rod. Any suggestions? Thanks, 'spoon

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#12260387 - 05/24/17 08:30 AM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
musiclife_7 Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 07/07/14
Posts: 1301
Loc: Wylie, TX
use FLouro if you are switching to a more flimsy rod. You don't want to have double the stretch. You wont be able to drive the hooks in otherwise.

I would recommend a 6'6" MH with 10lb flouro. If you go with a medium/moderate rod, stay under 7ft.

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#12260421 - 05/24/17 08:42 AM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
Ted Martin Online   content
Extreme Angler

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 2212
Loc: Dallas, TX
i have a 6'6" - M BPS crankin stick that i use for tiny cranks like a RC.5 - it does amazingly well with casting the light weight lures but has enough power to fight big fish on it. not sure if they make them anymore though, doesn't look like they have them on the BPS website.

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#12260444 - 05/24/17 08:55 AM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
golferflash Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 03/18/16
Posts: 59
Loc: brownsbor, tx
I have a Quantum Smoke rod, and it is absolutely perfect for square bills. It has a very soft tip for long casts and I can feel the bottom great. It loads up really well when you get a bite too. Only thing is if you catch a big one you will need to not horse it. I believe you would be very happy with it.

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#12260445 - 05/24/17 08:56 AM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
Brad R Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 03/09/15
Posts: 1895
Loc: Texas
TackleTour research on fluorocarbon lines showed they actually stretch very close to the same as better monofilaments. I don't think you win a lot there. Fluorocarbon does tend to stay elongated after the initial stretching and doesn't retract like mono. But, not much gain there I suspect using one over the other.

For a quarter ounce, have you considered using spinning gear? You'd be able to use a 4000 series reel with a stronger drag maximum capacity to pull against larger bass better, yet throw it on a stiffer rod. The larger spool makes for larger coils of line to pull off, longer casts. The stiffer rod hurts here a bit, for sure, but the distance you gain from the reel averages this out. The stiffer rod will help you battle the fish.

The downside is a bit slower repetitive casting and retrieving. Most of us can't fire off repetitive casts with spinning tackle as fast as with a casting reel.

Brad

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#12260456 - 05/24/17 09:01 AM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
Mark Perry Offline


Registered: 01/09/04
Posts: 52781
Loc: Highway 1
Fluoro sinks which I like for crankbaits. Past that a 7' MH rod is fine.

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#12260470 - 05/24/17 09:14 AM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
Big 10 Inch Offline
Angler

Registered: 01/18/11
Posts: 374
Try your square bills on a Dobyns 733. thumb

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#12260629 - 05/24/17 10:30 AM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
Barn Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 05/17/02
Posts: 2289
Loc: McKinney, TX
For light / smaller crankbaits I like the Falcon Cara Reaction CCB-4-17MR. I use it for baits like KVD 1.0, Bandit 100/200, Bomber 4A/5As

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#12260792 - 05/24/17 11:48 AM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
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TFF Team Angler

Registered: 10/09/01
Posts: 3117
Loc: Lubbock, Texas.
I use my Dobyns 764 for small to medium built CBs with good success. Of course, I also use McCoys Mean Green, that gives the fish more stretch to play themselves out with. If you are ripping the hooks out of their mouths, pull your drag down so a 3# fish can pull a little drag. THAT suggestion is for ALL that are not keeping fish hooked and ripping the hooks out. Sounds like you might be doing that, with those smaller #5 hooks, try that first, before you go buying another rod. Hope this helps. Tight lines, keep safe and good luck.

Thad Rains
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#12261038 - 05/24/17 02:02 PM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
aggie-01 Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 09/14/05
Posts: 237
Loc: Temple
I use the old green Falcon Cara Reaction Shoal Cranker. They don't make it any more. It is great for the smaller baits. It will be a sad day if it ever breaks!
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#12261502 - 05/24/17 06:46 PM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
Len B 1 Offline
Angler

Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 316
Loc: Celina Tx
Picked up 2 of the Lews White speed sticks in med. action 7ft. and have been impressed nice tip and back bone throw 1.5s a mile tip is soft enuff to roll or side cast. Teamed up with Lews LFS 12-15lb floro. Both rod and reel $99 each. Switching from carbonlites to these.

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#12261569 - 05/24/17 07:36 PM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
P_102 Offline
Angler

Registered: 03/13/08
Posts: 275
Loc: Grapevine, Tx.
Really? I'm sorry, I'm just a mediocre bass fisherman...you're really considering a new rod, or entire setup, for 1 bait? You're getting bit with what you have, just not landing (it sounds like) the better fish...loosen your drag a bit and thumb when needed.

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#12261571 - 05/24/17 07:38 PM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Mark Perry]
James Biggs Offline
TFF Team Angler

Registered: 07/11/06
Posts: 3001
Loc: DFW area
Originally Posted By: Mark Perry
Fluoro sinks which I like for crankbaits. Past that a 7' MH rod is fine.


+1
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#12261686 - 05/24/17 08:36 PM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
ezbassin Offline
TFF Guru

Registered: 01/15/04
Posts: 13196
Loc: Mansfield, Tx.
Get the spinner bait special from Ron @ Reel Time Rods at lake Fork. It is an awesome rod for moving baits. 6-9 in length.

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#12261820 - 05/24/17 09:47 PM Re: What to Throw 1/4 Oz. Square Bills On? [Re: Jig-N-Spoon]
Jstdad Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 05/23/17
Posts: 5
Loc: TX
7'4" KVD tour model cranking stick in medium action with 12lb fluorocarbon on a Shimano curado 5.3:1. Great control for casting in tight spots, u can cast it a mile and the rod has plenty of backbone.

I like this rod so much that I ordered two of his 7'11" cranking rods/reels for deep diving CB's

Here's a tip: You can get a 40% discount on up to 5 items on the quantum website with the promo code KVDQPTPC1. A great deal if you are interested in ordering multiple items, otherwise shipping is a bit high for a single rod. Also there are some nice rebates as well.
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