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Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Ibock] #12260714 05/24/17 04:06 PM
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I mostly throw a 1/4oz swim jig. 1. Is the Palomar knot a good for for going through the grass and moss. 2. Should I just go back to flurocarbon.3. If i stick with braid should i go with heavier than 30pound test?


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need to learn the palomar knot. Also, make sure you use a backer or tape on the spool so the braid wont slip on the spool.

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Originally Posted By: Isaiah Bock
I mostly throw a 1/4oz swim jig. 1. Is the Palomar knot a good for for going through the grass and moss. 2. Should I just go back to flurocarbon.3. If i stick with braid should i go with heavier than 30pound test?


1. Palomar will go through just about anything. I've broken braid before but I've never broken a knot.
2. For cover such as grass and moss, braid is the champ. Make sure that you lighten up on the drag and use your thumb to control line slip. Flouro & mono both have more stretch which gives fish time to get wrapped up in the grass/moss/brush/etc. The right braid setup will haul the fish, grass, moss, brush, etc up without issues.
3. IMHO, 30 pound should do whatever you need it to do. You'll get many opinions on this.

Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Chris G] #12261115 05/24/17 07:35 PM
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I've seen this with some of the softer feeling brands of braid especially if you aren't using a palomar knot. The line just snaps. I had this happen with some Suffix braid.


had this problem with the palomar knot many times couldnt figure out the problem, so i went to another knot


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I've seen this with some of the softer feeling brands of braid especially if you aren't using a palomar knot. The line just snaps. I had this happen with some Suffix braid.


had this problem with the palomar knot many times couldnt figure out the problem, so i went to another knot


Mine wasn't breaking at the knot. The line was snapping in all kinds of places. It's why I use nothing but PowerPro now.


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I don't know what the knot is called but you put the line through the eye and then twist six to seven times and put it through loop and wet it well and pull in together.


Sounds like you're not finishing the knot....make sure you pull the line through the second loop.



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what Knot is that?


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Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Ibock] #12262418 05/25/17 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Isaiah Bock
what Knot is that?

That is the "Improved" Clinch Knot I referenced above.


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Palomar is great, the only knot I need. Just arent tying right.


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I am very happy to report I changed to PP 50 pound test and used a Palomar knot. Caught over 30 bass in 6 hr period...Never retied..Didnt lose any lures. Pulled bass from thick and I mean thick veg and trees and never had any problems. Best thing is I got my confidence back with the palomar knot. Thank you for all the advise and help!!!


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Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Ibock] #12271951 05/31/17 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: Isaiah Bock
I am very happy to report I changed to PP 50 pound test and used a Palomar knot. Caught over 30 bass in 6 hr period...Never retied..Didnt lose any lures. Pulled bass from thick and I mean thick veg and trees and never had any problems. Best thing is I got my confidence back with the palomar knot. Thank you for all the advise and help!!!


Good Job Buddy!!

Don't let the 50# label give you false security tho. After that many fish in thick vegetation it will eventually break on you and it won't be on a small fish either!!



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I am very happy to report I changed to PP 50 pound test and used a Palomar knot. Caught over 30 bass in 6 hr period...Never retied..Didnt lose any lures. Pulled bass from thick and I mean thick veg and trees and never had any problems. Best thing is I got my confidence back with the palomar knot. Thank you for all the advise and help!!!


Good Job Buddy!!

Don't let the 50# label give you false security tho. After that many fish in thick vegetation it will eventually break on you and it won't be on a small fish either!!
Ken is speaking the truth, heed the warning

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Palomar knot is the only way to go. I add a granny knot to the top of that for insurance.


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How often do yall retie?


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