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#12259442 - 05/23/17 03:41 PM What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!!
Isaiah Bock Offline
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Registered: 04/13/17
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Switched to braid and I have had multiple times where I made a cast only to see my jig go flying in the air and the knot comes undone. I have fished since I have 5 and tied the same knot with mono and flurocarbon and never had a problem. Help.
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#12259469 - 05/23/17 03:59 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
tsspencer2887 Offline
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Registered: 02/23/13
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Loc: GP, TX
Which knot?

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#12259473 - 05/23/17 04:01 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
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Registered: 04/10/17
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Is the knot coming undone or breaking? it's real easy to leave slack in the loop if you tie a palomar knot, it will break quickly. Learned this the hard way...lost several high dollar frogs this way.

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#12259478 - 05/23/17 04:03 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
Chris G Offline
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I've seen this with some of the softer feeling brands of braid especially if you aren't using a palomar knot. The line just snaps. I had this happen with some Suffix braid.
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#12259497 - 05/23/17 04:17 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
Isaiah Bock Offline
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I don't know what the knot is called but you put the line through the eye and then twist six to seven times and put it through loop and wet it well and pull in together.
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#12259499 - 05/23/17 04:17 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
Isaiah Bock Offline
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What do yall think of a uni knot on braid?
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#12259502 - 05/23/17 04:18 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
Isaiah Bock Offline
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I am using 30 pound power pro braid. The knot is just untying
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#12259509 - 05/23/17 04:20 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
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put a drop of super glue on the knot

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#12259510 - 05/23/17 04:21 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
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Originally Posted By: Isaiah Bock
I don't know what the knot is called but you put the line through the eye and then twist six to seven times and put it through loop and wet it well and pull in together.


You need a knot that requires the line to be doubled going through the eye. Palamor works fine usually. Squirt a little super glue on the knot if you want extra security. There are many other line-doubled knots too though.

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#12259516 - 05/23/17 04:25 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
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Put some saliva on the line before you cinch the knot when using braid. I use palomar knot and can't even break off the line when I am hung if I wanted to.

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#12259518 - 05/23/17 04:26 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
LinkLowrance Offline
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Palomar knot works fine on braid for me. I wrap it around my hand when I'm cinching it and pull as hard as I can (braid only)


Never used super glue for any knot.

Bent hooks, broken baits, but never had a knot come undone on braid.


Edited by LinkLowrance (05/23/17 04:27 PM)

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#12259521 - 05/23/17 04:27 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
Ted Martin Offline
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Registered: 07/26/05
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Loc: Dallas, TX
Originally Posted By: Isaiah Bock
jig go flying in the air and the knot comes undone.


If the knot is coming undone, you need to 1. make sure you are tying a palomar, 2. make sure you are tying it correctly, 3. add a overhand knot at the end so the tag end won't slip back through under any circumstances.

#3 may not be necessary, but it makes me sleep better at night.

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#12259529 - 05/23/17 04:30 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
tsspencer2887 Offline
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If you know how to properly tie a palomar, it's the easiest, quickest and imho strongest overall knot you can tie. I've heard some complaints on uni knots before. You can google some modified versions of uni-knots if that's what you want to stick with.

As other's have said, dab of super glue for peace of mind.

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#12259545 - 05/23/17 04:39 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
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Registered: 07/14/11
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Loc: McKinney, TX
Originally Posted By: Isaiah Bock
I don't know what the knot is called but you put the line through the eye and then twist six to seven times and put it through loop and wet it well and pull in together.


That's a cinch knot. For braid, you can double the line with the same knot, or even better "Improve" it by finishing it off through the top loop (Berkley/Trilene Knot). That gets your tag end through the butt of the knot twice. If you do this, don't double the line.
I agree that you need to lubricate well, and pull it tight around something other than your hand. You want the knot to seat well, then allow the wraps to dig in to themselves.


Edited by David Burton (05/23/17 04:46 PM)
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#12259704 - 05/23/17 06:37 PM Re: What am I doing WRONG??? HELP!!!!! [Re: Isaiah Bock]
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Use a properly tied Palomar and it will not happen again. Sounds like you're new to braid. If so, make sure you use a few yards of mono or Fluorocarbon as a backing on the reel also to prevent spool slip. Or, wind a few turns of braid and then use electrical tape to secure the braid to the spool (after tying with arbor knot first).

Braid has its advantages.....but, IMO, more disadvantages.
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