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#12256379 - 05/21/17 09:28 PM Do you remember when you first started in a kayak?
Hardline43 Offline
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Registered: 08/17/13
Posts: 21
Loc: Waxahachie TX
Well today was trip 2 in a kayak. Last weekend some friends of mine allowed me to use there perception sport pescador 10. I was a bit surprised at how shaky I felt in the boat. After about two hours I started feeling better and was testing how far I could lean and ended up going over. When I got back home I bought a Old Town vapor 10 angler. Went out on today and was again shaky but again after an hour or so I got failrly steady. I did not end up going for a swim today so I felt a bit more confident. How long before I should feel comfortable?

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#12256462 - 05/21/17 10:34 PM Re: Do you remember when you first started in a kayak? [Re: Hardline43]
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If you are at or near the top end of what a kayak will hold weight-wise it will be unstable.

In my OldTown Loon 111 I've never felt uncomfortable. From day one 17 years ago the loon has never let me down nor have I ever rolled or gone swimming. About the only issue is big water and waves but I don't do saltwater where a SOT unsinkable yak is king. The loon is built around a very traditional design, shape and size. IMHO it is nearly a perfect combination of speed and stability without losing fishability. The kayak market has exploded in choice and price with new makers and models coming aboard every month. There wasn't much choice in 2000 when I bought my yak but I have always felt I got the right yak for me.. The Loon 111 has a weight limit of just 235 lbs but I top out at 175lbs and don't take much gear with me most of the time. I've had big boys in my yak and it does get tippy when overloaded.
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#12256604 - 05/22/17 06:35 AM Re: Do you remember when you first started in a kayak? [Re: Hardline43]
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How much do you + your gear weigh? Your kayak has a max weight capacity of 325 lbs, and you should probably not be loading in more than 230 lbs.

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#12256622 - 05/22/17 06:49 AM Re: Do you remember when you first started in a kayak? [Re: Hardline43]
Jimbo Offline
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I agree with the weight issue being more of a problem possibly causing the "shaky" uncomfortable issue.
My maiden voyage I had the shaky feeling last about the first twenty minutes and once I relaxed that was the end of it.
My first kayak was 28" wide and not one of the more stable kayaks to begin with.


Edited by Jimbo (05/22/17 06:51 AM)
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#12256702 - 05/22/17 08:10 AM Re: Do you remember when you first started in a kayak? [Re: Hardline43]
Hardline43 Offline
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Registered: 08/17/13
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Loc: Waxahachie TX
Now we're calling out the fat guy? LOL JUST KIDDING. That is one great aspect. In my B Day suit I'm 264 lbs this morning. I've come down from 300lbs in March. But I would say that my ideal weight is going to be right about 220lbs. I've got a broad chest and wide shoulders. I'll never be 165lbs. I'm sure there are 1000s of threads about the right kayak for a heavy fella. I'll start searching for those vs ask the question again. Because I've not been comfortable enough to even bring a fishing pole. On yesterday's trip my friend asked if I bright my pole. My response was NO my objective for today is to stay in the boat. Lol I'm not disappointed that I bought the Old Town even if it's not the right kayak for me. It would probably be an awesome kayak for my wife.

On Edit: if I'm searching for a kayak and I weight 262. My guess would be probably about 40lbs of gear once I start carrying gear how much capacity would be ideal? Should it be double? 600 lb capacity or is that overkill?


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#12256939 - 05/22/17 09:49 AM Re: Do you remember when you first started in a kayak? [Re: Hardline43]
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You were right at the limit for safe kayaking, any wind or waves and your safety is compromised. There are a lot of threads here about kayaks for big guys. You should be looking at a minimum 450 lb weight capacity, 500 would be better.

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#12257059 - 05/22/17 10:41 AM Re: Do you remember when you first started in a kayak? [Re: Hardline43]
Jimbo Offline
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Best to try and make one of those demo days that Austin Canoe and Kayak put on now and then. Other kayak shops in the area will let you demo as well or even rent one for a day.
Try out their "big man" kayaks that have high weight capacity and they are generally wider as well.
You shouldn't feel uncomfortable or compromise your safety simply by trying to fish out of one either.
Kayaking is a blast and the only way to enjoy it to it's fullest is to have the right kayak that fits your stature and style.
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#12257494 - 05/22/17 02:46 PM Re: Do you remember when you first started in a kayak? [Re: Hardline43]
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500-600 lbs weight capacity is best. Keep loosing weight too. You'll enjoy the sport more look n feel better too. More buoyancy means more performance and less drag thumb
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#12257761 - 05/22/17 06:08 PM Re: Do you remember when you first started in a kayak? [Re: Hardline43]
Vidahr Offline
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Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 47
Loc: Huntsville, TX
I have a Pelican Enforcer 120X and during my first few times out, I tested the limits of the kayak in shallow water. Definitely not a standing-up kayak, it's waaaay too unstable, however it's incredibly stable when sitting. I'd have to be trying to dump myself to roll over in it.

Test your limits in shallow water without gear. Wear some swim trunks! Once you know your limits you'll feel a lot better! laugh
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#12261153 - 05/24/17 02:56 PM Re: Do you remember when you first started in a kayak? [Re: Hardline43]
Shaun Russell Offline
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First time out was in a 10'pelican kayak. I went out twice with it and then bought a 12' Ocean Kayak. The Ocean Kayak had a higher weight rating. It was a lot more stable and much easer to paddle.
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