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Re: Why use a leader? [Re: Lollygagger] #12250232 05/17/17 09:07 PM
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I'm gonna check out the Boomerang Tool that HOGON suggested by JIGUM Jigs. His website is currently down though.


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Re: Why use a leader? [Re: Lollygagger] #12250236 05/17/17 09:09 PM
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So, if I decide to use a leader, what are the advantages/disadvantages of mono vs. floor leaders?


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Re: Why use a leader? [Re: Lollygagger] #12250286 05/17/17 09:34 PM
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Jigum is retired and Jerry' Jigs took over for him.

The Boomerang Tool was not on Jigum's Site he merely introduced me to the Boomerang tool on a fishing trip. You can get it on Amazon or the Boomerang web site. It's a great tool if you fish with Braid and way better than toe nail clippers.

https://www.boomerangtool.com/collections/all-boomerang-products/products/the-snip-basic

The difference between Flourocarbon and Mono is Flourocarbon sinks.

There are those that personally dislike Flourocarbon and there are those that personally dislike mono.
It all boils down to preferences and whatever works best for you.

The one thing I can't stress enough with regards to Flourocarbon is you must wet the line before you cinch the knot or you will burn the line and it will break. Just an FYI.

Re: Why use a leader? [Re: Lollygagger] #12250608 05/18/17 01:00 AM
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I've tried a couple of different floro's and it just seems to brittle to me. I've always wet my knots so that is not the issue. Mono is so inexpensive now, that is what I use. I use the tiny swivel and have had to retie the braid only a few times in the last year. Once when I frayed the line by pulling drag off the reel and not paying attention. And the other times when line got caught in the trolling motor and broke the tip off my rods. Yes rods, plural, as in more than one! (3) to be exact! cry
I hope that doesn't happen again. Any way the Mr. Crappie mono suits me fine and is easy to retie. I'll give that tool a look, although I really don't need it. I just like having to much stuff!

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Re: Why use a leader? [Re: JIM SR.] #12250791 05/18/17 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted By: JIM SR.
Plus I use a spinning rod/reel, my reels are 1000 or 500 size, light braid and 8 pound mono leader is my favorite. Great feel, I can see the up bites with the
yellow braid, and the rod/reel is easy to use... fish


I'm glad you brought up reel size! The memory of mono can be a problem with smaller reels, much more so than larger reels. Not an issue with braid. thumb


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Re: Why use a leader? [Re: Lollygagger] #12250864 05/18/17 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: Lollygagger
So, if I decide to use a leader, what are the advantages/disadvantages of mono vs. floor leaders?


For me, fluorocarbon is close to a perfect leader material. It is less visible than mono = you can use larger diameter. It's more abrasion resistant = we fish in a lot of brush. Higher density = more sensitivity. You do have to be more careful when tying your knots with fluorocarbon and always wet the knot before pulling it tight. I tie in a 4'-5' 10# fluorocarbon leader to my braid and it does not effect the sensitivity of the braid. YMMV


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Originally Posted By: MilesHunter
Originally Posted By: Lollygagger
So, if I decide to use a leader, what are the advantages/disadvantages of mono vs. floor leaders?


For me, fluorocarbon is close to a perfect leader material. It is less visible than mono = you can use larger diameter. It's more abrasion resistant = we fish in a lot of brush. Higher density = more sensitivity. You do have to be more careful when tying your knots with fluorocarbon and always wet the knot before pulling it tight. I tie in a 4'-5' 10# fluorocarbon leader to my braid and it does not effect the sensitivity of the braid. YMMV
...Yep what he said...some of my rods have had the same leader on them for 6 months...I love fluoro.....flurocarbon+braid = UNPARALLELED THUMPAGE.


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Re: Why use a leader? [Re: Lollygagger] #12251460 05/18/17 02:51 PM
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Rods,

This video has a guy with rope demonstrating how to tie the knot I use with all my jigs.
The only difference is I go through 3 times and in this video he goes through twice.
It's the same way I tie my loops on my Braid and my Leader too.

https://youtu.be/l8e8zmbr-Mo

Re: Why use a leader? [Re: Lollygagger] #12251506 05/18/17 03:12 PM
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This is not the exact way I attach my leader to my Braid, but it is one that you may like to use.

I tie a loop on the end of my Braid. I tie a loop on the end of my leader. I take about two arms lengths of leader off the Spool and Clip the line. I take my leader loop and place it through the loop on my Braid. Then once my leader line is essentially through the loop on my Braid then I take the end of my leader line and put it through the loop on my leader line. Slowly start pulling until tight and both loops will be attached at the tips. You will have a knot with a loop of Braid above and a loop of leader line below with a knot between the two. A second knot will be at the bottom of your leader line from where you tied your loop on the leader line. Picture the number 8. The knot between the two lines is going to be in the middle of the 8 circles.

Again this video is just another way to attach Braid and a Leader. He is talking about Fly line but it is the same concept with Braid and a Leader just a tad different from how I do it.

http://youtu.be/LIsD5-W6pFE

Hope these help.

Re: Why use a leader? [Re: Lollygagger] #12251578 05/18/17 03:42 PM
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Thanks HOGON, I pretty well understood what you explained. The vids were informative. I've seen so many videos on knots, I can't keep them straight!


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Re: Why use a leader? [Re: RODS454] #12251922 05/18/17 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: RODS454
I've seen so many videos on knots, I can't keep them straight!


I would call the one in the video above, a "double granny". roflmao

Re: Why use a leader? [Re: REDGUN] #12251960 05/18/17 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: REDGUN
Originally Posted By: RODS454
I've seen so many videos on knots, I can't keep them straight!


I would call the one in the video above, a "double granny". roflmao

I'm not using a leader. I don't want to have to learn all those crazy knots.

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