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#12245912 - 05/15/17 07:31 AM HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts?
Barrett Offline
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Registered: 05/27/09
Posts: 6960
Loc: Denton Texas
Whats the deal with some of these HS kids, advisers and parents. I know a guide on the lake that has been basically begged to be booked well within the 1 month guide rule and asked numerous times for info. I have had parents call me in the last few days (well within the 14 day off limits period) not to mention the PMs from the HS kids.

The most recent being our tournament winners this weekend getting asked for info after they caught 30 pounds again well within the 14 day period. What are some of these kids being taught? This is the future of our sport and I have heard and experienced stuff like this A LOT the last week. No info means no info and that's from anyone. How hard can that be?

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#12245957 - 05/15/17 08:03 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
Ken Starling Online   happy
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Registered: 02/24/08
Posts: 2923
Loc: lake tawakoni
Barrett, I wished we knew the answer. It is crazy the stories we hear. I hope people are not giving them the information and letting them know they are breaking the rules.
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#12246001 - 05/15/17 08:32 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
Ken Starling Online   happy
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Loc: lake tawakoni
If anyone has these names please contact us via pm or call me or Tim Haugh.

My number is 9034561786

Tims is 9035393975

We will handle this
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#12246007 - 05/15/17 08:34 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
fouzman Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
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Loc: Houston, TX
Every single one of them should be outed and kicked out of the program if they're pursuing info during off-limits. PERIOD!
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#12246012 - 05/15/17 08:35 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Ken Starling]
Chris B Offline
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Registered: 05/02/03
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Loc: Prosper, TX
Originally Posted By: Ken Starling
If anyone has these names please contact us via pm or call me or Tim Haugh.

My number is 9034561786

Tims is 9035393975

We will handle this


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#12246025 - 05/15/17 08:43 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
Bass Buster1 Offline
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Registered: 08/26/04
Posts: 1558
Loc: Denton
I have had the same happen with the PMs. Not to mention all of the boat captains driving their kids around up in IDB creek like a bunch of maniacs on Saturday. I thought the point of the HS tournaments was teaching kids ethics. I am guessing ethics is 60mph 20 yards max from guys tied up crappie fishing and this was practice. It was absolutely nuts.
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#12246070 - 05/15/17 09:13 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
jackwabbit Offline
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Registered: 10/06/08
Posts: 262
Loc: Rowlett TX
Totally disagree with the statement "high school tournaments are the worst thing to happen" my son will be fishing in this tournament. Him and his partner have worked their tells off upgrading equipment and learning how to fish. YMMV but it's a good thing for my kid and lots of others.

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#12246074 - 05/15/17 09:15 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
BassSacker Offline
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Registered: 08/09/09
Posts: 69
Loc: Kaufman, TX
I hate to hear these bad comments about the high school teams, I personally have only fished once where they were fishing, that was on LOP last year. Those I ran into were not only polite but considerate, so not all parents and captains are teaching bad manners I believe it is a few that are the loudest and rudest. Here is hoping they get taken out quickly. I love the idea of high school fishing teams just wish I had the opportunity when I was that age!

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#12246108 - 05/15/17 09:32 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
Ken Starling Online   happy
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Registered: 02/24/08
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Anyone with messages from people about Ray Roberts please forward to me. We cannot address the issue if we do not know who. We will address it at the meeting friday. We will also be on the lake
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#12246131 - 05/15/17 09:40 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Thecrankster]
Txduckhunter Offline
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Registered: 02/19/02
Posts: 1682
Loc: Lake Fork
Originally Posted By: Thecrankster
Let's kick the kids thing while we can...How about helping teach these kids etiquette by helping out not coming on some forum and bashing...I hear wish kids would get outdoors more they do thru High School bass fishing NOW it's These kids are horrible They're so bad CRY ME A RIVER...Get up off your *** and help out or shut up


Easy brother. A couple of the guys that have posted are/have been captains. The OP is pretty quick to help out if he can, HS or not.
While I don't like reading this on an open forum - if a couple of captains read it and self examine their actions then it has helped. Those that do read it and don't self-evaluate are hopeless anyway and can't be helped.

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#12246145 - 05/15/17 09:49 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
Bass Buster1 Offline
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Registered: 08/26/04
Posts: 1558
Loc: Denton
I will be out there Saturday taking two guys crappie fishing that bought the trip at a church auction so youth(kids) can go to summer camp. I will be happy to write down TX numbers from unsafe boaters, there were plenty last Saturday. It is not the kids that I have a problem with, take the kids fishing that is awesome! I have a problem with the adults who are supposed to be teaching rules and ethics and safe practices and all of that jazz. The best way to teach a kid is by your example and if your example is flying right by several people who are tied up that is really poor! If your example is pot licking that is really poor! Grow the sport, help kids go to college on scholarship, that is great, just do it the right way! Find your own dang fish, let the kids catch them not the boat captain, and use safe and ethical ramp and boating practices. It is a fish, not worth a life!!!
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#12246170 - 05/15/17 10:05 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
Brian McCarty Offline
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Registered: 05/28/03
Posts: 5586
Loc: Dallas, TX
I am a boat captain. I have witnessed some of the same actions captaining my team during the tournaments along with pretty much any day I have fished this year. I am teaching my boys etiquette and the proper ways along with letting other captains know when I feel they are pushing the boundaries. This new culture is running rampant on our lakes today regardless of age. Case in point, we had an older gentleman in a Ranger fly by us within 75ft to fish the point we were fishing on Roberts Saturday. It's just not the high schoolers or tournament anglers!

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#12246178 - 05/15/17 10:11 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
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Registered: 07/10/10
Posts: 6842
Loc: Whitehouse, TX
Stinks to hear that this is going on. Our guys (Arp) really try to do things the right way, from what I understand. I captained one tournament for one of our teams and the other teams on the water were very courteous. I've had nothing but positive interactions with the THSBA stuff so far.
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#12246229 - 05/15/17 10:36 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
721Phoenix Offline
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Registered: 08/13/07
Posts: 2057
Loc: Downtown Tomball, Texas
Not gonna argue with a lot of this, I've seen a lot of it. I have captained for both THSBA and SETX events. Both good organizations, but with that said, the size of the fields has gotten out of hand in some of the tournaments, especially on Rayburn, 500 plus teams, give me a break.

I have no horse in the race, I only fill-in or volunteer so kids can particpate, but when you start awarding cash it changes the way people approach the event. I am not sure if I will be back next year as a captain.

Ken good luck on finding those who bend the rules.
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#12246248 - 05/15/17 10:48 AM Re: HS tournament coming up on Ray Roberts? [Re: Barrett]
Jaret Latta Offline
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Registered: 01/06/07
Posts: 6899
Loc: Austin, Tx/Nacogdoches, Tx
I think most of these Captain's aren't tournament anglers, mostly just guys who fun fish when the lake isn't crowded. It's an entirely different world during a big tournament compared to fun fishing on a less crowded lake. These events are no different than a big champs or TTT. Anytime money is involved people get stupid. Take out the money and let's see what happens to participation. If you want a true learning experience, it needs to be all volunteer, no money, no participation trophies, just teaching.

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