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#12244395 - 05/13/17 07:58 PM Fly fishing advice for spinning gear
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Loc: Spicewood
I know a bunch of eyes just rolled but I had an awesome trip fall into my lap and I haven't yet ventured into fly fishing. Gonna be staying on the Dolores River is SW Colorado this summer for a week and was wandering what lures/gear etc would be capable there. I have read that using ultra light or light gear with one of those clear casting bobbers or a slip bobber with a split shot and a fly tied below it could be good. Other than that I figure on packing small spinners, tiny cranks, minnow cranks, a small jigs. Have a St. Croix Panfish Series 7' L with a Shimano Sedona on it and 6 pound mono. Good or should I go braid with flouro leader? Any advice is appreciated on specific lures, colors, patterns...whatever! Trout will be the target species but I will fish for whatever swims! Thanks fish
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#12244511 - 05/13/17 08:58 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Naggler]
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You're basically asking about fly and bubble. I don't have any specific information about that area but:

In principle you can use any fly, but a woolly bugger is the most common usually. Olive is the most common color. They come weighted or unweighted. I would get weighted ones so you don't need split shot. Cast it out, slow retrieve, pause sometimes, change the leader length until you find what they want. If you're in a stream you generally want it near the bottom.

If your rod can cast a filled bobber (they get kinda heavy) it'll be fine. I would run mainline --> bubble --> swivel --> leader (4lb fluoro is my go to) fly.

Otherwise, all the normal spoons, small mepps, rooster tail, kastmaster, super duper, etc... work most of the time.

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#12244561 - 05/13/17 09:50 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Naggler]
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If you're just wanting to catch fish with a spinning rod and not necessarily with a fly you can use the fluorescent trout bait or earthworms under a bobber. If you want to use a fly then a clear casting bobber will work. Just check with some of the locals so you can match the hatch.

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#12244952 - 05/14/17 10:09 AM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Naggler]
J-Moe Offline
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Registered: 04/04/14
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Loc: Brenham, TX
Borrow a fly rod. Catching 1 on the fly will be worth 20 on a bobber set-up. Make the experience something special.

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#12251770 - 05/18/17 12:49 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Naggler]
Naggler Online   content
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Loc: Spicewood
I am looking for a fly rod to borrow but no luck yet. I have read that the bobbers get real heavy when water is added and that they splash like crazy even on the slightest lob. I think I gonna take my thill slip bobbers and split shots if I have no luck finding a fly rod to borrow. Will use flies from the little local shop there. Taking an assortment of small inline spinners and tiny spoons. The trout bait will go with me but will only be used if I am not having any luck with artificials. Earthworms for the evenings to harvest some for the grill!
If I do find someone with fly gear...what weight rod am I looking for? It is the Dolores River above MacAfee Res...mountain river coming out of San Juan National Forest.
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#12251823 - 05/18/17 01:24 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Naggler]
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4 ,5, or 6 weight

It all starts with this rod for many. Eagle Claw's gift to beginning fly fisherman, or even those that are not beginning --

https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Claw-Feathe...erlight+fly+rod

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#12252390 - 05/18/17 07:22 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: doctorxring]
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Originally Posted By: doctorxring

4 ,5, or 6 weight

It all starts with this rod for many. Eagle Claw's gift to beginning fly fisherman, or even those that are not beginning --

https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Claw-Feathe...erlight+fly+rod

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Agreed. I have one of each of the lengths and love them all. Pair them with a used Martin tuna can reel for $10-$15 on eBay (I prefer the Model 61 or 63) and you have a nice setup that won't break the bank.

I should note, that in my opinion the 6'6" rod casts best with a 5 wt line, the 7' with a 6 wt line and the 8' with a 7 wt line.

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#12253683 - 05/19/17 03:21 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Naggler]
Naggler Online   content
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Loc: Spicewood
Thank you gentlemen! Will look into maybe buying a rig before I go.
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#12254688 - 05/20/17 12:44 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Naggler]
Naggler Online   content
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Loc: Spicewood
Glitchmo thanks for the advice on the bobber rig...should be perfect for my light action rod and will have one of these setups with me at all times. Hoping to be able to hike up and down the river with that in hand but not sure what is private property and what is public up there yet.
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#12254831 - 05/20/17 03:36 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Naggler]
Glitchmo Offline
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Registered: 05/08/16
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Be careful with that. CO law is that property owners can own the stream bottom as well. So you can wade into private water without knowing (in TX you're usually ok wading within the banks.)

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#12257706 - 05/22/17 05:29 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Naggler]
1Fisher77316 Offline
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Registered: 09/09/16
Posts: 37
Loc: Montgomery, Texas 77316
If you are throwing ultra light spinning..say 4/6 # max you'll do fine and catch a lot of fish. If you get tired trying to throw the bobber and fly tie on a small (2 3/4 " I think) rapalla in the rainbow trout color or the gold side color and hang on. I've found the larger trout feed on the small trout and love the rapallas. I have used both the floating model and the countdown model depending on the water depth and speed.
Tight lines!
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#12257718 - 05/22/17 05:38 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: McKinneyLonghorn]
lws6772 Offline
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Registered: 06/21/05
Posts: 539
Originally Posted By: McKinneyLonghorn
Originally Posted By: doctorxring

4 ,5, or 6 weight

It all starts with this rod for many. Eagle Claw's gift to beginning fly fisherman, or even those that are not beginning --

https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Claw-Feathe...erlight+fly+rod

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Agreed. I have one of each of the lengths and love them all. Pair them with a used Martin tuna can reel for $10-$15 on eBay (I prefer the Model 61 or 63) and you have a nice setup that won't break the bank.

I should note, that in my opinion the 6'6" rod casts best with a 5 wt line, the 7' with a 6 wt line and the 8' with a 7 wt line.
I second the Martin tuna cans. I have them(Model 62) on my 8' 5 wt All Star rods.
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#12258237 - 05/22/17 11:18 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Naggler]
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Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 2547
Loc: Mesquite
Caught many fish in Colorado with bubble and fly setup. Use a 3 ft 4 lb leader below the bubble swivel. Bubbles come in smaller sizes slso. Rainbow brand bubble made in colorado. I just cast and retrieve slowly. Gl
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#12259048 - 05/23/17 12:09 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Bass fro chop]
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Registered: 09/27/16
Posts: 89
Loc: Paradise on the Rio
I was waiting for replies to reference the Delores river. When trucking I carried fly gear and considered trying to fish some areas of it. Never did though. BTW, the very best beans (Pinto) come from Dove Creek / Cajon area so buy some. Also stop to see the cliff dwellings while there. I do not remember any stretch of the Dolores that I had seen as being particularly big. I have fished between Jemez Springs and Cuba NM (west of Los Alamos) and found a long rod to be a disadvantage. A short spinning or spin casting rig with little Meps and such could be flipped into small spaces and were very productive (I was not so purist in those days).

However they do have bigger stretches like below the McPhee dam. Find a 6wt rod and start learning to cast.

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#12259288 - 05/23/17 02:06 PM Re: Fly fishing advice for spinning gear [Re: Naggler]
mickfly Offline
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Registered: 02/23/08
Posts: 1712
Loc: Fairview, TX
Since you are in Spicewood, hop on Hwy 71 and head to Sportsman's Finest in Bee Cave. A former employee there, Joe Robinson, pioneered the crossover from ultralight spinning to fly fishing (along with Dave Whitlock). Joe wrote a book on the subject (Piscatorial Absurdities) that they should have in the shop. Then speak to Greg Welander or someone else in the shop about where you are going and how you'd like to fish. I bet they'd have a wealth of advice for you.
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