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Water Heaters
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05/11/17 12:27 PM
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slim1
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Thinking about going tankless. Anybody know anything about them? Good or bad
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 12:54 PM
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Gas (or propane) - yes. Electric - no. Get one rated greater than 120 degrees.
He is truly a sick individual.
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 02:59 PM
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The one I'm looking at goes to 150 degrees. It's electric. Whats wrong with electric?
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 04:57 PM
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Matt Jackson
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You have to watch you gas piping size to ensure it would have enough volume. Check out Navien they are able to run off an existing 1/2" gas line and have a 2" pvc vent. There are also tax rebates having an energy star rating. As Slim said stay away from electric if that's what you were looking at. How many bathtubs do you have? They are the future of hot water and if properly maintained should last a lifetime. If something springs a leak or quits working it can all be replaced with a Phillips head screwdriver. As long as they keep making parts it could be your last heater to have to buy. It's a good idea to neutralize it every year and you can buy the pump and chemicals at a local supply house and watch YouTube on how to do it. It's very simple.
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 04:58 PM
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Matt Jackson
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Just remember you will need an electrical plug and a drain for the condensate.
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 05:01 PM
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Matt Jackson
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The one I'm looking at goes to 150 degrees. It's electric. Whats wrong with electric? The technology isn't there yet. Plus I think they require another electrical service ran for 480 volts to the unit.
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 06:55 PM
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Location of your plumbing will make a difference on the installation price if you go tankless. It has to be vented with a stainless pipe, and have a minimum amount of clearance all the way up around the exhaust. It will be fairly easy if it is in the attic or on an outside wall. It will get pretty expensive if it is in the garage, or somewhere on the bottom floor.
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 06:57 PM
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You have to watch you gas piping size to ensure it would have enough volume. Check out Navien they are able to run off an existing 1/2" gas line and have a 2" pvc vent. There are also tax rebates having an energy star rating. As Slim said stay away from electric if that's what you were looking at. How many bathtubs do you have? They are the future of hot water and if properly maintained should last a lifetime. If something springs a leak or quits working it can all be replaced with a Phillips head screwdriver. As long as they keep making parts it could be your last heater to have to buy. It's a good idea to neutralize it every year and you can buy the pump and chemicals at a local supply house and watch YouTube on how to do it. It's very simple. It's Electric
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 06:59 PM
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Location of your plumbing will make a difference on the installation price if you go tankless. It has to be vented with a stainless pipe, and have a minimum amount of clearance all the way up around the exhaust. It will be fairly easy if it is in the attic or on an outside wall. It will get pretty expensive if it is in the garage, or somewhere on the bottom floor. It's electric. On the new gas tankless you can vent with PVC, Stainless went out years ago they have made them much more efficient. And I am still not a fan of tankless
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 07:00 PM
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Thinking about going tankless. Anybody know anything about them? Good or bad I have not heard much good about tankless electric. Gas on the other hand there is a fair amount of people who like them.
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 08:57 PM
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I'm following this thread.
My gas water heater works fine, but I want to replace it eventually.
I flushed it the first week I moved in. The previous homeowner never flushed it. The water was all rust brown.
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 09:01 PM
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Tankless is expensive, both for the unit and for installation. Not too bad if you get one while the house is built and you design it in, but very expensive to add down the road.
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 09:04 PM
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Tankless is expensive, both for the unit and for installation. Not too bad if you get one while the house is built and you design it in, but very expensive to add down the road. Yeah, I'm looking at the ones on Home Depot's website. I can see where that extra cost will come in. Apparently, the Gas Tankless water heaters need at least 1" Gas pipe in order for them to heat efficiently. Gas from 1/2" or 3/4" wont do as there's not enough volume.
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/11/17 09:05 PM
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I think they need a 3/4", and most appliances have 1/2" run to them.
I have a Rinnai and we love it. But if I had a tank heater and needed to replace it, I'd buy another tank heater.
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: Water Heaters
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05/12/17 01:55 AM
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Devil Horse
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depends on how many people could be using it at same time
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