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Are we mature enough?
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05/04/17 01:23 AM
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rickt300
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What about a bowfishing forum? Separate it from the haters and let this legal sport have a voice.
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: rickt300]
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05/04/17 01:42 AM
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Wildman of the navidad
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Quote on the wildman" They Said he'd eat the hair off of a man's head when he was hungry and squeeze the water out of rocks when he was thirsty"
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: rickt300]
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05/04/17 02:23 AM
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Uncle Zeek
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Bowfishing topics are welcome in the general freshwater and saltwater forums.
"Decency is not news; it is buried in the obituaries --but it is a force stronger than crime" ~ Robert A. Heinlein Artim Law Firm, PLLC Estate planning & tax attorney 2250 Morriss Road, Suite 205, Flower Mound, Texas 75028 972-746-0758 mobile zac@artimlegal.com
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: rickt300]
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05/05/17 01:08 PM
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ssmith
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since bowfishing is not really fishing why not start your own bowfishing forum with likeminded folks .
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: rickt300]
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05/05/17 02:39 PM
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6BOOMER
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/19/17 01:50 AM
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Freeman Clark
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WHY KILL JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT.AND LEAVE AT THE BOAT RAMP TO ROT?
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: rickt300]
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05/19/17 01:20 PM
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grout-scout
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Answer to the original question is "NO".
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: ssmith]
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05/19/17 01:30 PM
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cdoz35
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since bowfishing is not really fishing why not start your own bowfishing forum with likeminded folks . Hmm interesting statment. Wonder why you have to have a fishing license for it then. There are other fishing forums on the web too, so I guess we should just shut this one down and use them.
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: rickt300]
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05/19/17 11:18 PM
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FXfromTx
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I don't see a reason you couldn't have a forum for bowfishing, as you said it is a legal means of taking non-game fish. You'll usually get endless comments about how terrible bowfishing is on this forum. I've never done any bowfishing, and while I think it would be fun(I love to bowhunt), I don't eat carp and therefore will not kill them just for fun, so that's why I've never shot one with my bow. Pisses me off every time I pull up to a lake and see mounds of decaying carp that have obviously been shot by a bowfisherman. If you're going to use them in some way or at least dispose of them properly, it's legal so I say go for it. If you're going to pile them up dead on the bank or shoot them and drop them back in the water, that's where I have an issue with bowfishing. It should be illegal to throw them on the bank in my opinion. If you were to go shoot an exotic, say an Axis down by San Antonio where there are some free roaming, and you dump it in a ditch the game warden will be looking for you even though they aren't regulated by tpwd, just like non-game fish. I agree something must be done about the carp numbers in many lakes in Texas, but piling them up on the bank isn't the answer.
"The fishing was good; it was the catching that was bad."
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: rickt300]
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05/20/17 03:45 PM
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BODA
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I don't think it is a an issue of maturity, but I would swear some folks on this forum must have had pet gar or carp when they were kids. Any attempt to discuss your sport will be met with soap box speeches and generally a bad attitude
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: rickt300]
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05/20/17 04:48 PM
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TxBazzn
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It's not maturity it's just the way of the world these days. If someone doesn't do something themselves, then they think no one else should. And then feel it's completely appropriate and necessary to voice that opinion; usually in a hateful manner. I don't bowfish but I hear it's fun. Start your thread and ignore the haters. They will start to look like idiots eventually.
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: FXfromTx]
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05/20/17 05:45 PM
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Uncle Zeek
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+1 Agreed on this. Maturity isn't the problem. The main problem is the perception - true or not - that bowfishermen as a group are extremely wasteful with the public resource by shooting large numbers of fish and discarding them rather than putting them to use. There's also a growing number of anglers who recognize that alligator gar in particular need greater conservation efforts - they are a native Texas fish after all, and grow to impressive size if given the chance. It should be illegal to throw them on the bank in my opinion. It's been illegal to do this for quite some time now.
"Decency is not news; it is buried in the obituaries --but it is a force stronger than crime" ~ Robert A. Heinlein Artim Law Firm, PLLC Estate planning & tax attorney 2250 Morriss Road, Suite 205, Flower Mound, Texas 75028 972-746-0758 mobile zac@artimlegal.com
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: rickt300]
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05/21/17 10:08 AM
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/21/17 01:05 PM
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Laker One
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/21/17 01:14 PM
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Muzzlebrake
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Bowfishing and discarding fish at a boat ramp to me is no different ethically than people keeping undersized fish which I see at fishing docks and off the bank. Some people believe that if it's big enough to get on the hook it's big enough to go in the pot. I have no problem with bow fishing other than that. It's a great way to fertilize a garden with rough fish. Just don't waste what you take.
Last edited by Muzzlebrake; 05/21/17 01:16 PM.
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Then He made the earth round...and He laughed and laughed and laughed!
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/21/17 01:50 PM
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since bowfishing is not really fishing why not start your own bowfishing forum with likeminded folks . Hmm interesting statment. Wonder why you have to have a fishing license for it then. There are other fishing forums on the web too, so I guess we should just shut this one down and use them. You also have to have an archery stamp so is it hunting or fishing?
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/21/17 03:21 PM
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Gitter Done
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/21/17 03:36 PM
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I am not mature enough to have this, or any other real conversation. I have proven that over and over again.
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/21/17 04:49 PM
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AgSellers04
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PBs LMB- 11 lbs., 7 oz. Falcon Striper- 40 lb. Long Is. Sound BlueCat- 30 lb. Texoma Hybrid-8.2 lb. Lewisville Cutthroat Trout-22" Yellowstone R, WY Rainbow Trout- 21" Blitzen R, OR Steelhead- 8 lb. Umpqua R, OR Redfish-20 lb. Panama C. Bay, FL
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/21/17 05:41 PM
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SharkBaitTV
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im for a bowfishing section.
"Conservation is the preservation of life on earth, and that, above all else, is worth fighting for."
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/21/17 05:53 PM
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Heck, lets go all the way and have commercial fishing too..... One of my fishing boats with some trammel nets. Note, one is monofilament and the other is braided. Also note the condition of the rich people neighborhood lake water..... Plus they ain't got none of the proper kinda weeds the giverment makes developers have when they gots a lake. Them danged ole carrups ate 'em all and stirred the lake all up. We catched a buncha of 'em, too-grass carps and commons as well as a few suckers, some buffaloes, a lotta gizzard shad, an' some catfishes, all of which needa go! Depending on how you look at it, them nets is either sporting or not so much. I do know its a lot of cold, hard, stanky, slimy, dangerous, an' sometimes interesting work. Whether you do it with a cane pole, a bow, a gig, a shocker or a net, its still fishing. Now, nearly (but not) all my work is in private waters and the fish we catch are used to the highest and best use possible, which depends on a lot of things. But you can bet none of us is eatin' no gars that grew up in the rich people neighborhood with chemical plants for yards an' a big septic tank for a lake. In this case, we turned most of the gars back as they are actually conducive to our ultimate goals for this water body. But (all) the carp, (some) catfish, buffalo, suckers, gizzards, tilapia and other fish that stir, muck, dig, feed near, or otherwise interact with the bottom substrate and/or shorelines are removed. Gar, bass, crappie, sunfish, yellow cat, blue cat, bowfin, and some others are returned if in relatively good shape.
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/21/17 06:03 PM
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grout-scout
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My daughters Beta died the other day, does anybody want to eat it? I'd hate to be charged with wanton waste...
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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#12255858
05/21/17 06:56 PM
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cdoz35
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since bowfishing is not really fishing why not start your own bowfishing forum with likeminded folks . Hmm interesting statment. Wonder why you have to have a fishing license for it then. There are other fishing forums on the web too, so I guess we should just shut this one down and use them. You also have to have an archery stamp so is it hunting or fishing? [quote=cdoz35][quote=ssmith]since bowfishing is not really fishing why not start your own bowfishing forum with likeminded folks . False statement. Per Tpwd website no other stamp or endorsement needed other than a fishing liscense. So I still say fishing. Hunting liscense and endorsement needed to take frogs or turtles.
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/22/17 01:31 AM
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/22/17 01:33 AM
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grout-scout
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Actually this post was here before the other one.
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Re: Are we mature enough?
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05/22/17 02:57 AM
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You also have to have an archery stamp so is it hunting or fishing?
Since when? "A freshwater, saltwater, or all-water license package is required to bow fish in Texas public waters. No additional stamp or license is required"
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Re: Are we mature enough?
[Re: duckkillah]
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05/22/17 03:01 AM
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Oops! I was a little late with my post!
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