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Re: High School Kid Disqualified
[Re: Chasin Hogs]
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04/25/17 12:26 AM
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2014NITROZ-7
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Did he post it on YouTube ? No you wasn't there.
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Re: High School Kid Disqualified
[Re: 04champ]
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04/25/17 12:30 AM
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Chato
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not creating an opportunity for dishonesty reduces the occurance of it greatly
why are captains fishing? they're catching fish the kids could use in their bags ^^^^^this^^^^^
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Re: High School Kid Disqualified
[Re: RWjr]
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04/25/17 12:34 AM
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Shallow Waters
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I think that just because the captain is fishing it doesn't mean he is taking fish from the kids. I fish a various times during the tournaments but typically when the kids are not getting bites. I am always trying something different then them when I do fish so we can see if something else is working.
I am sure there are others like me, but me and my kids don't typically get a practice day on the water. The 2 tournaments we did practice before we did better, but I don't have that kind of time to get out there every weekend. Honestly, I am not sure I would even get to use the boat more than twice a year if it weren't for these tournaments. Not everybody has the life style that fits a professional fisherman, so think that the captain can do all the teaching doing "practice days" doesn't work for everyone.
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Re: High School Kid Disqualified
[Re: Chris B]
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04/25/17 12:36 AM
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Frank the Tank
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If they don't let the captains fish I would imagine they would have a hard time finding captains. Yep. this exactly. ^^^^^^ I don't get to get away to fish much on weekends, so if I am gonna take 5 or 6 Saturdays for kids that aren't even mine, then I am fishing. Plus, my kids have asked half-jokingly if I catch a good fish could they weigh it, and I laughed heartily then used it as an opportunity to teach them about honesty, integrity and protecting the sport. Me fishing isn't a temptation, being dishonest about who's fish get weighed isn't an option for me. Unfortunately, you can't stop all the cheating and having captains not fish only stops the honest guys from fishing, it won't stop the cheating. They will figure out another way.
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Re: High School Kid Disqualified
[Re: RWjr]
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04/25/17 12:59 AM
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MarcM64
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I am a boat captain and sometimes I fish just to see if there is another type of pattern! I dont enter the side pots, because that definitely takes away fish from the kids! Its all about coaching and maybe it gives the kids some confidence! But the bottom line is that he cheated! Saw a boat captain on Rayburn last wknd that was fishing with his kids. when he saw me, he put his rod down and never got close enough for me to get TX numbers! Its supposed to be fun for the kids! I'm thankful that these kids are willing to get up at 3-4 in the morning and enjoy the outdoors! Just teach right from wrong!
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Re: High School Kid Disqualified
[Re: WAWI]
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04/25/17 01:01 AM
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PEDRO H.
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not creating an opportunity for dishonesty reduces the occurance of it greatly
why are captains fishing? they're catching fish the kids could use in their bags It's an attempt to make it easier to get captains I suspect. I don't fish when I captain. In honesty the whole deal is out of hand. It's a lot to ask for captains to spend entire day, sometimes multiple in their boat, driving kids around. It's one thing when it's your kid. I could go on about it in detail but I won't. The TD that runs the fork summer deal was rudely clear that not only were we not to fish but suggested we leave our cell phones in vehicles as if we used them we would be dqd. Then he says if we have boat trouble to call. Lol so bring a book when you captain at fork this summer. And for the record the kids and the captain should be done for good. Agreed. I had a kid try to tell me it was ok to let him reel in a fish I caught !? We had a long discussion about the rules and how I felt about dishonesty.
Last edited by SKEETER_MAN_225; 04/25/17 01:03 AM.
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Re: High School Kid Disqualified
[Re: RWjr]
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04/25/17 01:03 AM
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RWjr
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The boat captain that gave the kid the fish also won the side pot
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Re: High School Kid Disqualified
[Re: BackSeatBuddy]
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04/25/17 01:08 AM
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RedEar12
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Folks this is a growing issue. I can tell you that this is not the first time or the second time this has happened. I can tell you at least 4 or 5 times. its not something the organization wants made public There is almost $200,000.00 in scholarship money out there to be had and they only poly the winner and one random. A lot of this is going on Are we teaching a sport, or how to win at any cost? When I was growing up, there was so much cheating in tournaments here in East Texas in the late 70's and early 80's, that I never started tournament fishing. High School kids hiring guides to find their fish, now I understand why. Big money scholarships. Shocker.
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Re: High School Kid Disqualified
[Re: RWjr]
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04/25/17 01:17 AM
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PEDRO H.
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I told the kids I had that they had to come up with a game plan for how and where they wanted to fish on a lake. I was was only here to drive the boat and give advice when needed. They need to know how to do this if they are to go on their own one day after they finish school. I told them "nothing is given to you, you have to earn it!" In fishing and Life.
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Re: High School Kid Disqualified
[Re: RWjr]
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04/25/17 01:21 AM
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K.D.
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I always heard that cheating in a bass tourney in Texas is a felony. Why should this be treated any differently? Do you have to be entered to cheat? If you're a captain and you have the ability to impact the result you can be called cheating. You should have as much culpability as the anglers.
Just my opinion of course but I can tell you I won't be partaking in this deal
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Re: High School Kid Disqualified
[Re: RWjr]
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04/25/17 01:36 AM
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JIM SR.
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This is High School, the school should ban the adult forever, and DQ the kids for X amount tournaments.
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