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Temperature Change #12211080 04/22/17 03:37 AM
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Fishing in East Tx tomorrow (Henderson County). Temps that have been in mid 80's dropping to mid 60's tomorrow. What does the peanut gallery think of weather shifts like this during this time of year? Should I expect a slower day? Would you change what you throw? Went last week when temps were mid 80's and had great day fishing banks with soft plastics (senkos, skinny dippers, brush hogs) and even some top water frogs. Keep with what worked last time or change it up in response to weather shifts? Any opinions appreciated thanks in advance.

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I think it will be fine in morning but as front settles in and blue bird sky's gonna make it tougher. Still should catch fish tho.


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Thank you. Just curious - why is it blue skies would hurt the fishing?

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There will be guys that come along to answer your question who have much more time on the water than I do but I'll give you my 2 cents... take it for what it's worth. But I personally have noticed if a cool front moves through during the spawn some fish, especially males guarding eggs will stay put, some females do too, but quite a few females move off the bed. When a cool front first comes through like this I might try fishing banks and spawning flats if that has been working before, but I don't waste much time on it. If the fish tell me they aren't there then I move quickly. Even before the cold front there were pre-spawn fish still waiting nearby, so I will back off the bank to the nearest cover of any sort(ditches, channels, grass-lines, timber, docks etc.) and target those pre-spawn fish and the fish who moved off the beds due to the weather are likely in these areas as well. People catch fish in all different types of water on the same lake all year long, so I often go with the type of fishing that I'm confident in, not what everybody else is doing and I think that's important to remember, especially on a slow day.

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Blue-Bird skies are high barometric pressure conditions. Fish don't feed as well in high-pressure conditions. At least that's how I've always understood it. May not be 100% accurate and I don't know the exact science of why they don't feed at this time, I just have always been told they don't and it has proven to be true on the water for me time and time again.


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It is the increase in barometric pressure. It effects fish negatively. Just like a quickly falling barometer will send them into a frenzy and you can load the boat.

Downsize your lures and line size and fish slower after a severe front. Fish still bite just not as well.
Sometimes, I go all the way down to 6 lb. test.

Grandma used to have a homemade barometer on the back porch, a mason jar rig. She could tell you when it was time to hit the pond.

Those tall trees in Henderson will help you today because the wind is probably going to be as much a factor as anything else.


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Looks like the barometer starts falling Sunday and bottoms out Tuesday,...should be good fishing..

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I think with the warmer temps all week long it won't hurt as much. I think it may may slow down some today but pick up tomorrow. I think cold fronts this late in spring don't mess the fish up as bad as it would have a month ago or earlier.


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The depth changes most bass make over the course of a day moving up and down in the water column create pressure changes that greatly exceed the effects of weather induced changes in air pressure as measured by barometers within the normal high and low range (which often take days to move a single point).

You can see fish moving up and down on your electronics, for example. So, how is it that a fish that exposes itself to hydrostatic pressure changes just by its own natural movements, how is it then able to discern tiny pressure changes in the air? How can it "pick it apart?" Why would a fish dislike weather induced pressure changes more than it just doing its normal business?

What is actually happening is you are seeing fish relate to weather: clouds versus blue skies, wind versus dead air, temperature and more. Barometric pressure just follows these weather patterns.

For a full point movement in barometric pressure, the offsetting movement required of a fish to neutralize it is about 13" if I recall. Not much.

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I catch fish wether the high or low pressure, cold warm or hot . i do not believe all the weather hype. I think if you find fish and put something in their face they will bite it

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Originally Posted By: Buckshotbuddy
I catch fish wether the high or low pressure, cold warm or hot . i do not believe all the weather hype. I think if you find fish and put something in their face they will bite it


This thinking alone will put more fish in the boat regardless of conditions

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Will let you know here in a bit.

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if the sun pops out and we get high pressure, I like to look for overhead cover. Bass will really draw in tight to stumps and get under a canopy of weeds and such when this happens. Get out the pitching stick and get busy.

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The fish will bite just fine. They don't care about the air pressure. You may have to look in different places or use different baits but they will bite just fine. I pay more attention to the weather conditions than the actual air pressure.

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Originally Posted By: Brad R
The depth changes most bass make over the course of a day moving up and down in the water column create pressure changes that greatly exceed the effects of weather induced changes in air pressure as measured by barometers within the normal high and low range (which often take days to move a single point).

You can see fish moving up and down on your electronics, for example. So, how is it that a fish that exposes itself to hydrostatic pressure changes just by its own natural movements, how is it then able to discern tiny pressure changes in the air? How can it "pick it apart?" Why would a fish dislike weather induced pressure changes more than it just doing its normal business?

What is actually happening is you are seeing fish relate to weather: clouds versus blue skies, wind versus dead air, temperature and more. Barometric pressure just follows these weather patterns.

For a full point movement in barometric pressure, the offsetting movement required of a fish to neutralize it is about 13" if I recall. Not much.

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They are hitting square bills and medium diving crankbaits around grass, concrete, and wood 4-11 fow
Think a chatterbait would be good today; maybe I'll rig one up


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Caught 50 in 3 hours on lipless cranks today. Air temp 59 water temp 72. Color didn't matter.

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They were pretty aggressive on Fork today. Water temps have not fallen much at all.

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Fished for 4 hours on Whitney today. Cold wind and rough water made it tough on the fishermen but the fishing was good. Water temp 71 air temp 59. Caught 32 bass and striper on slow rolling spinner.

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They still bit on Fork again today. Even saw a few bed fish later in the day.

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I've typically found that the fish are active right before, during, and for several hours after a cold frontal passage. We fished all day Saturday and most of the day Sunday and that theory held true. The fish were absolutely chomping Saturday in the wind, rain, and clouds. Sunday was a much, much tougher day with bluebird skies, somewhat lighter north winds, and higher barometric pressure that peaked around late morning.

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I found they bit just as good on Sunday as Saturday. But, they were 5-6ft deeper. Saturday was good in 20'ft...Sunday was 25 ft and hard bottoms. C rig


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Any update Pete_TCB? Where did you end up fishing and how were they biting?

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Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
I found they bit just as good on Sunday as Saturday. But, they were 5-6ft deeper. Saturday was good in 20'ft...Sunday was 25 ft and hard bottoms. C rig
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Were you at Pool? I fished Sunday and could only manage one bite. It was 3-4 ft. Fished 1-30 ft and threw everything but a c-rig.

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