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#12205255 - 04/18/17 01:23 PM April 13th 2017 new shad law.
River Mongrel Offline
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Registered: 03/26/12
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Anyone else going to buy the $60 permit to possess and transport shad or any non gamefish from one water body to another for bait? The official reason from TPWD is to create awareness of zebra mussels.....Money scam all it is IMHO.


Edited by River Mongrel (04/18/17 01:24 PM)
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#12205455 - 04/18/17 03:17 PM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
benp Offline
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Registered: 06/28/12
Posts: 969
Loc: Addison
so they said we could not do it then they said we could if we paid 60 bucks! wow
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#12205458 - 04/18/17 03:18 PM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
BrandoA Offline
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Registered: 06/09/11
Posts: 3004
Loc: Marble Falls
So if I pay $60 I can take shad from lake A and go fish Lake B?

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#12205476 - 04/18/17 03:31 PM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
Jason5366 Offline
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Registered: 11/22/15
Posts: 19
I talked to GW last week. He told me was legal as long as transporting in tap water and then taking them out of transport container and putting them in destination lake water. He didn't say anything about $60.

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#12205486 - 04/18/17 03:38 PM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
blooper961 Offline
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Registered: 12/04/09
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You can transport all the plastic shad you want for free

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#12205624 - 04/18/17 05:13 PM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
Mckinneycrappiecatcher Offline
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Loc: mckinney, tx
The law is about the water, not the bait fish. Put the fish in tap water that's been declorinated, then as soon as you get to the lake you can put lake water in the tank.
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#12205926 - 04/18/17 08:32 PM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
River Mongrel Offline
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Nope . New law. Google itnif ya want to know. To many hard heads . Hahaha like me
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#12206662 - 04/19/17 09:12 AM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
G Love Offline
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Loc: Weatherford, TX
It's all a racket. Always has been, always will be.
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#12206881 - 04/19/17 11:13 AM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: G Love]
River Mongrel Offline
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Originally Posted By: G Love
It's all a racket. Always has been, always will be.

Geuss so because there really isn't another reason other than squeezing more money.
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#12206981 - 04/19/17 12:07 PM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
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TPW Commission Approves Shad Collection and Sale Rules

AUSTIN — The Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission at its Thursday, Jan. 26, public hearing approved changes to the regulations on the possession and sale of gizzard and threadfin shad collected from public waters.

The change will require persons who use containers exceeding 82 quarts in volume for collection and possession of shad from public fresh waters to obtain a $60 Permit to Sell Nongame Fish Taken from Public Fresh Waters. Persons collecting shad for use as bait or prey in private lakes would need a permit if their container volume exceeds 82 quarts.

No permit is required if the shad are used only as bait on the lake where they are collected, or if a licensed fishing guide possesses and furnishes the shad as bait to customers as part of the guide’s services. A permit will continue to be required if the shad collected are sold or exchanged for anything of value regardless of the container size used.

According to TPWD Inland Fisheries Director of Information and Regulations Ken Kurzawski, this change allows the department to better monitor shad harvesting to ensure their sustainability in Texas fisheries and addresses concerns about the spread of invasive species.

“Zebra mussels are the primary threat,” Kurzawski said. “Before this change, no permit was required if the shad were not sold, so there was less opportunity to inform those users of the risks of the zebra mussel transfer…so these regulations give us an avenue to do that.”

Kurzawski added that most of the public comment made on the proposed changes were in agreement with the rules. He said there was concern about the change impacting fishing guides, but that they’ve crafted the rule in a way that guides can continue to operate as they do in adherence with existing regulations.
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#12207023 - 04/19/17 12:35 PM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
River Mongrel Offline
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Shad Rule Changes Take Effect in Texas

AUSTIN — New rules that govern the possession and sale of gizzard and threadfin shad collected from public fresh waters go into effect April 13.

The changes passed earlier this year by the Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission will require persons who use containers exceeding 82 quarts in volume when collecting shad to obtain a $60 Permit to Possess or Sell Nongame Fish Taken from Public Fresh Waters. Persons collecting shad for use as bait or stock in private lakes would need a permit if their container volume exceeds 82 quarts. A permit will continue to be required if the shad collected are sold or exchanged for anything of value regardless of the container size used.

No permit is required if the shad are used only as bait on the lake where they are collected, or if a licensed fishing guide possesses and furnishes the shad as bait to customers as part of the guide’s services.

According to TPWD Inland Fisheries Director of Information and Regulations Ken Kurzawski, this change allows the department to better monitor shad harvesting to ensure their sustainability in Texas fisheries and addresses concerns about the spread of invasive species.

“Transfer of zebra mussels is our primary concern,” Kurzawski said. “Before this change, no permit was required if the shad were not sold, so there was less opportunity to inform those users of the risks of the zebra mussel transfer…so these regulations give us an avenue to do that.”

Information on obtaining a nongame fish permit can be found at http://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/fishboat/forms/ or by calling 512-389-4742.


This is what I found. I wonder why dates are different?
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#12207588 - 04/19/17 07:23 PM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
captain steve barnes Offline
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Registered: 01/25/02
Posts: 1565
Loc: pottsboro,texas u.s.
I don't think it's possible to put new TPWD laws into effect until September 1. It says this is a rule change but I don't see any way it could be law at this point.


Edited by captain steve barnes (04/19/17 07:24 PM)
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#12208282 - 04/20/17 08:45 AM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
Jerod Pontello Offline
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Registered: 03/14/16
Posts: 111
I agree u cant get a ticket if its not in the book, just my thoughts

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#12208330 - 04/20/17 09:08 AM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: River Mongrel]
PKfishin Offline
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Registered: 09/28/12
Posts: 2579
Loc: Texas
It's just about revenue. If people keep putting up with this stuff pretty soon they will start charging you by the fish. Kinda like the ramp charges at some of the lakes. First $5, then $7, where does it stop? Let's try $20. Why not a $100 or even $500 launch fee?

Fishermen are eventually going to need an organization that lobbies in Austin or these regulations will get crazy.
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#12208502 - 04/20/17 10:54 AM Re: April 13th 2017 new shad law. [Re: PKfishin]
River Mongrel Offline
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Registered: 03/26/12
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Game Wardens kinda do what they please in my experience. Had a GW named Bill Jones in the 90s cuss me badly and tell me hed whip my [censored] and shoot our remote control boat if he caught us doing it again. This was before the law was changed concearning RC beyond cable at PK dam.


Edited by River Mongrel (04/20/17 10:56 AM)
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