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What was I doing wrong on RC? #12127825 03/07/17 01:23 AM
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I went to Firewheel today for my first every sandy trip this evening. I had a 1/16 jig head with some minnow like fluke around 2-2.5". The bite was slow but people all around me where catching a few. Looked like more small crappie than whites. Other than the live minnow guys what was i doing wrong. I didnt even get a bite.

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It's ok bro, just gotta find out where the holes are. U may have not been in the right spot or maybe u were they just weren't biting. Sometimes u gotta move around around til u find them. Trust me.



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No right or wrong just sometimes goes that way . Why its call fishing and not catching.

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The best advice I can give is to use 6lb line or lighter and fish your baits on the bottom. This is the two biggest mistakes I see people make on the creek.

Re: What was I doing wrong on RC? [Re: armored223] #12128300 03/07/17 04:26 AM
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yea it was frustrating watching people around me catching. I think maybe the problem with south of firewheel road bridge is its deeper and my 1/16 was really never making it to the bottom. I was stunned by the amount of trash and garbage is all around there. I am a small town northeast trout and smallmouth fisherman and the streams are so clean and when there is garbage people pick it up. It was really just nasty right there.

Re: What was I doing wrong on RC? [Re: armored223] #12128320 03/07/17 04:38 AM
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Where are some of the spots on RC where you can wade into the water. I see pics on here of that but that area south of the firewheel bride has steep banks.

Re: What was I doing wrong on RC? [Re: armored223] #12128322 03/07/17 04:38 AM
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Oh and are they in Muddy creek right now? I live alot closer to that creek

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Stick with rowlett creek. My best advice is 4lb fluorocarbon, and get away from the people.

Re: What was I doing wrong on RC? [Re: armored223] #12128547 03/07/17 12:56 PM
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Use hot dogs

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Don't have to use flourocarbon when fishing that light of line. Winter and early spring I prefer mono bc it floats and my jigs have a slower sink rate so I can work them suuuuuper slow bc sometimes they want it like that. Besides, when the creek is muddy like it is now, you can tie on straight braid and itll be alright. Just make sure u use darker colored jigs when the water is murky. I'll be peeing in the water up creek to try and clear it up for you and warm up the water temps quicker.

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My only advice would be to change up your baits and move around more. Attempt to get 50-100 yards from the closest fishermen. Try different approaches. Be confident.

Honestly, I have caught whites on a twister tail grub on 15-20 lbs line or even on rattle traps. Nothing fancy. They were just my confident baits at the time and they hit it.

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Originally Posted By: TheKingOfFish
It's ok bro, just gotta find out where the holes are. U may have not been in the right spot or maybe u were they just weren't biting. Sometimes u gotta move around around til u find them. Trust me.

Great advise right here! As stated above you do not have to have 4 lb line in order to catch fish out there. I have a video from out there last year were I was catching them with 8 pound hi-vis blue line. One of the most important things out there is to move around. The fish will bite within the first few casts if they are in that pocket. If they don't, move. Eventually, you will find them.

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Originally Posted By: Huckleberry
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I think its easy to get bad advice on here smile

All joking aside I used to catch the heck outta stocked channel cats in farm ponds when I was up north on hot dogs!

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Using 8 lb line on a 1-2 lb fish is silly unless you are just hauling meat. All you're doing is just reeling in a fish. You never even get to fight. Plus the fish has no chance to fight you.

Using 4 lb mono is ideal and your catch ratio will def go up. I might get broke off once a day. So I find no need to use anything heavier unless I'm specifically targeting hybrids. Using lighter line makes your lures more live and gives it more action. Lighter line also allows the live bait to look more like it's alive.

I'll put $200 on the line, more if you like. Just has to be worth my time, for somebody to show me that they can catch just as many with 8 pound mono while I'm using 4 pound. Mini tourney. Are you game Anthony? DFW creeks. I'll even let you pick the creek.


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get ye a 1/8 chartreuse roostertail and fling it around. if ye get caught up go swimmin fer it in ur speedo. its a high dollar bait fo real. getcha some

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o and fish shoulder to shoulder next to tfly lolo duel

Re: What was I doing wrong on RC? [Re: armored223] #12130681 03/08/17 12:17 PM
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I am using 6 lb Cajun Red. I have found that to outfish other colors but again all my fishing experience is smallies and trout. Yes you are right sounds like i need to secretly follow tfly smile

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Originally Posted By: armored223
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Use hot dogs


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I think its easy to get bad advice on here smile

All joking aside I used to catch the heck outta stocked channel cats in farm ponds when I was up north on hot dogs!


Not bad advice. They're not talking Oscar Meyer. We tie two different variations of the jig below, a slow sink, and a fast sink.
They are deadly on the sandies during the spawn.



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Originally Posted By: TxPacker4
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Use hot dogs


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I think its easy to get bad advice on here smile

All joking aside I used to catch the heck outta stocked channel cats in farm ponds when I was up north on hot dogs!


Not bad advice. They're not talking Oscar Meyer. We tie two different variations of the jig below, a slow sink, and a fast sink.
They are deadly on the sandies during the spawn.



See not everything I post is bs. Lmao

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yep our definitions of hot dog are different for sure smile Where do you get those?

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Originally Posted By: fishin'aholic2

One of the most important things out there is to move around. The fish will bite within the first few casts if they are in that pocket. If they don't, move. Eventually, you will find them.

This really is the most important, fish are all over the creek now. No sense fishing the same hole as 5 other people.

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If you use 4lb fluorocarbon you can sit there and catch more fish than all 5 of them......

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If you want a cliffs note on creek fishing then book a trip with T-FLY and his crews.They are very good
at what they do. But if you are stubborn and like to learn from others then its a learning curve.
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yep our definitions of hot dog are different for sure smile Where do you get those?
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As per the topic of this post, I would have no problem just "reeling in fish."

Getting skunked blows!

...real wisdom when it comes to "fishing," or "catching fish."

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Lol everybody on this forum and thread was a noob and a beginner at some point in time. Even some of the guys giving you you advise right now and trying to sell u chit or book a trip. Hot dog, corn dog, chili dog...Doesn't matter. I've been catching most of my fish lately on the [censored] I picked up in the clearance section of Walmart. Just go fish. Don't be afraid to ask questions to the guys doing the catching. Most of the people here are just internet fishermen that don't really hit the water often or just cut and paste chit other people wrote somewhere else. There are so many places to fish, and I'm considering making YouTube videos again and disclosing the spots that I've been fishing and techniques. Spring is near, just get out there and cast. The best time to fish is right around the corner. You don't want to miss out by sitting behind a computer researching barometric pressure, custom lures, and other dumb [censored]. Before you go fishing, open up Google maps or earth. Pick a spot and go fish it. Do this every time you have a chance to go fishing and you'll discover some of your own spots soon enough. Catalog the spots. Keep a journal or log of where you fished, when you fished it, and how you did. By the end of the year, you'll know everything you need to know. If you want to fish with me, just hit me up on here and PM me. I won't charge you, and I won't push my lures on you etc... I'm not a pro, but I've been doing this awhile on landlocked bodies of water and all the way to pelagics. If you feel more confident with a bank guide, then by all means, go for it. Good luck and tight lines my ninja

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I like this time of year. Its always the battle of who can catch the most sandbass in a creek during the spring lol

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Lmao. 8lb line. Where's the fun in that besides skiing them in the surface. 4lb line is all you need. Hybrids can't break unless your drag is uber right or you fishing in a wood field or stump. Other then that 4lb. I even use fluro when the creek is super clear. The more natural your bait looks. The more bites you get. 4Lb will outfiah 8lb any day


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Sorry for the typos. Being asian sucks when my phone only does full screen.


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I'm NOT using 8lb guys. Not sure why that keeps coming up. I had 6lb red but will be switching to 4lb.

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Fish aholic2 started the 8 pound topic.

So, Anthony, how about a fishing tournament, me and you buddy. Prove your 8 pound monofilament therory.


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I use 10lb braid with no leader and still catch fish.

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Save your money Tfly. Lol

Its not that serious. fish

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Originally Posted by TarponFly
Fish aholic2 started the 8 pound topic.

So, Anthony, how about a fishing tournament, me and you buddy. Prove your 8 pound monofilament therory.


All of your proof is right here...



Does he need 4 lb line to catch fish at Rowlett creek? Absolutely not.

Will 4 lb catch more than 6 or 8 pound? I seem to do just fine with my 6-8 pound test.

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Lol I want to have a tournament. I'll take your challenge tfly, but under these conditions. You give me +200, meaning 2-1 odds, your $400 to my $200. Since I will be fishing with 8lb test, and you'll be fishing with 4lb test. Can be mono, flourocarbon, braid etc...Just has to be consistent with the other person's line. We fish side by side to make sure neither of us are cheating. We both spool our reels with fresh line on the spot. No bait, only lures and jigs. We each pick three jigs or lures. We use the same ones, only those can be used during the tournament. Target species will be sandbass and hybrids. Hybrids are a bonus fish. One hybrid equals 2 sandbass. Let me pick the body of water and date.
Also, whoever wins has to donate the money to a charity of their chosing. I'll donate it to CAST for kids. You can write the check out to them so you know I'm not fooling when I win... :-). They'll be on lake calaveras for a charity event for kids with disabilities on April 8. Maybe you can come with me to show them a thing or two. SOOO... Game on??

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I want to witness this little tourney...It'll be fun to have a lot of crowd to witness. Heck guys let's put bets on these competitors and make it fun. Proceeds goes to beer money we can spend in a bar roflmao


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That's not a fair bet! You can catch more fishes using 20lb test than I could catch using 4lb test. roflmao

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Using 8 lb line on a 1-2 lb fish is silly unless you are just hauling meat. All you're doing is just reeling in a fish. You never even get to fight. Plus the fish has no chance to fight you.

Using 4 lb mono is ideal and your catch ratio will def go up. I might get broke off once a day. So I find no need to use anything heavier unless I'm specifically targeting hybrids. Using lighter line makes your lures more live and gives it more action. Lighter line also allows the live bait to look more like it's alive.

I'll put $200 on the line, more if you like. Just has to be worth my time, for somebody to show me that they can catch just as many with 8 pound mono while I'm using 4 pound. Mini tourney. Are you game Anthony? DFW creeks. I'll even let you pick the creek.


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Lol I actually know that you can catch better with lighter line, but I just love a challenge. Tfly errrrybody knows that you know what u doing. I'm just game to put on a good show. Shoot, I think it'd be more fun to see who could catch the smallest fish on like say 30lb test. Lol

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Besides freshwater fishing isn't even my forte. If we were fishing inshore or offshore, it'd be a different story, but most of y'all that fish the creeks yearly would show me up in RC. That being said....I'm still the best fisherman in the world. Lmao. It's like poker, everybody believes they're the best. Hahaha

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Have already donated trips and money to this years charity's.

If I win, it's going straight in my pocket.


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Ok first, in that video, it's right after a rain and the water is muddier than normal, when it clears up, The person who is using 4lb fluorocarbon or 4lb mono is going to outfish you 3:1, maybe more. Get it through your thick skulls, it's not WHAT you throw as much as it is the LINE you throw it on.

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The smell of urine in here is very strong!

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The smell of urine in here is very strong!
roflmao roflmao

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