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 Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/26/17 09:22 PM
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Bulletman, keep in mind who has been in charge the last 8 years; but still I agree with you. There is only 1 way to stop it and it would have to come from the Mexican government.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/26/17 09:24 PM
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Bulletman99, I believe it is physically impossible to secure our border 100%. What IS possible is to enforce the laws already on our books and pass further, more punitive measures. Make it so uncomfortable to attempt to come here (and stay here) that people will stop trying, eventually. Or incarcerate them and let them work for the gubment improving our infrastructure. Or...
...To hell with PC and humanitarian treatment. This is a closed border. If we catch you trying to cross it, you will be apprehended or killed. Anyone have the stomach for the second part?
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/26/17 09:38 PM
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I am in-favor of the dismemberment of arms, feet, and/or legs for a second time offender.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/26/17 09:42 PM
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Bulletman99
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LOL---Guys we are all in agreement---And yes Fouzman I DO have the stomach for what comes next---Sergeant First Class US Army Retired!! It is funny you mentioned it though. Back when I flew the border out of Ft. Hood, there was public outcry that we were in fact out to do just that. I was a Blackhawk Crew-chief in support of Apaches from 1/6 Cavalry. I had a one of a kind Blackhawk (at that time) that had FLIR mounted in the nose and a command and control communication center in the back. The particular FLIR I had was also a one of a kind from Hughes Aircraft in Van Nuys CA. We were testing it for the Comanche Program that was later cancelled by Congress. The FLIR was cable of detecting a heat signature such as a cigarette from 5 miles away and locking onto that target. We had ZERO guns mounted or even side arms. The Apaches of course had their main cannon mounted but no ammo. The only reason they were tasked to be there was they had FLIR with Day and Night capabilities. Because the Apaches had the guns mounted the program was scrapped to prevent hurting the little democrats' feelings!
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: Bulletman99]
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01/26/17 09:51 PM
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LOL---Guys we are all in agreement---And yes Fouzman I DO have the stomach for what comes next---Sergeant First Class US Army Retired!! It is funny you mentioned it though. Back when I flew the border out of Ft. Hood, there was public outcry that we were in fact out to do just that. I was a Blackhawk Crew-chief in support of Apaches from 1/6 Cavalry. I had a one of a kind Blackhawk (at that time) that had FLIR mounted in the nose and a command and control communication center in the back. The particular FLIR I had was also a one of a kind from Hughes Aircraft in Van Nuys CA. We were testing it for the Comanche Program that was later cancelled by Congress. The FLIR was cable of detecting a heat signature such as a cigarette from 5 miles away and locking onto that target. We had ZERO guns mounted or even side arms. The Apaches of course had their main cannon mounted but no ammo. The only reason they were tasked to be there was they had FLIR with Day and Night capabilities. Because the Apaches had the guns mounted the program was scrapped to prevent hurting the little democrats' feelings! What a crock! Don't want to cause an international incident by flying unarmed aircraft near the border. Thank you for your service to this country, sir! 
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/26/17 10:08 PM
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If there is going to be a wall built along Falcon it might as well improve the Bass fishing: Electroshock the Gar and dry them like cordwood. Afterwards build a 10 foot high wall with them along the shoreline using crushed Cormorants for mortar. There would be plenty of materials left over for other projects!
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/26/17 10:56 PM
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Doubt if there is any feasible way to fence off Falcon or the Rio Grande and probably wouldn't do any good anyway. At the present we have 21,000 Border Patrol agents and they haven't shut it down completely. I would use the experience and intelligence of Chief Mark Morgan and new Sec. of Defense "Mad Dog" Hattis to help solve the issue of illegals. The "wall" is a deterrent but not a fix. Fear of getting caught hasn't stopped them. It appears the answer lies on the Mexican side and fear might motivate those in charge to get involved with purpose.
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed.
Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 11:05 PM
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Bulletman99
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If there is going to be a wall built along Falcon it might as well improve the Bass fishing: Electroshock the Gar and dry them like cordwood. Afterwards build a 10 foot high wall with them along the shoreline using crushed Cormorants for mortar. There would be plenty of materials left over for other projects! Thats some funny stuff right there I don't care who you are!!
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/26/17 11:14 PM
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The "illegals" problem goes way beyond getting across the border. In 2013 while employed with another oilfield company in another state, we got wind that one or more of our mexicans were illegal. The ops manager and myself brought all 27 of them in for a meeting. We came right out and asked who was illegal----23 of them admitted to it! We had completed the required I9 background checks and they all came back good. When asked how they were doing this, one told us that they were paying a man in either Virginia or W. Virginia $5K per person and he would provide paperwork that would pass right thru the federal and state systems. The man wasn't BSing either. These guys and their families had been in the states for several years, paying taxes, and getting "LEGAL" returns. Yes we must secure our borders better by some means but s**t like this has got to be investigated and stopped as well!!!
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/26/17 11:18 PM
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What if they just knock out the dams and drain em. Then it would be way easier to build a wall.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/26/17 11:26 PM
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My first thought was where did they get the $5000 ? If there's a way they'll figure it out I guess. The illegal who killed that woman in California had been deported 4-5 times and made it back. Maybe if they started deporting them to Syria or Iran it might make them think twice. Parachutes would work great for that.
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed.
Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/27/17 01:35 AM
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I'd probably listen to men like bullet.....Lived on the pointy end of the spear and knows what is required.....I say a wall where feasible to narrow the access points, and zero tolerance for any other crossing using the full weight of the US military..... Amnesty for those here, productive, and willing to comply with the law is fine with me...... Everyone else can learn the hard way.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/27/17 01:41 AM
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Well if you set up the military on the border and shoot enough of them they will quit coming. we have gotten soft on all things. I know this is over kill, but it will take extreme measurements to stop this. I think it is to easy to built a tunnel to go under the fence.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/27/17 02:19 AM
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Workfishngolf37
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I have the ultimate plan!!! Build two lakes about 40 miles from the border. Then divert the water from falcon and amistad
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: Workfishngolf37]
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01/27/17 02:32 AM
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I have the ultimate plan!!! Build two lakes about 40 miles from the border. Then divert the water from falcon and amistad Best idea I've heard yet pilgrim. 
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed.
Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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