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Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 12:22 AM
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David Rush
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Posting in the Bass Section because I want to see what the bass anglers on the border (or others that may know) think. Move if necessary. Looks like Trump is pushing forward with The Wall so, I'm wondering what happens around the lakes? Will it continue along the US side of these lakes? Stop and start dam to river? It seems like it will create problems for bass anglers either way. If it jumps the lakes it's seems like they'd become even more of a funnel for illegal activity. If the wall follows the lakes US shorelines it creates access problems and makes them more dangerous. Has this been considered?
Last edited by David Rush; 01/26/17 12:28 AM.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/26/17 12:24 AM
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bigbass94
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 12:33 AM
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 12:34 AM
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ToadSnatcher14
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I'm not sure anyone here knows what the future has in store.
But I'll tell you one thing, Trump don't give two carps about you being able to run over to Blanco for a couple green fish.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 12:51 AM
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Chris B
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I say put the wall down the center of the river channel and make sure the spillway is on their side so ours stays full.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: David Rush]
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01/26/17 01:26 AM
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Jobie99
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I'm not really sure, but if I have a fence between the lake and my backyard I'm going to be one unhappy camper
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 01:32 AM
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I say put the wall down the center of the river channel and make sure the spillway is on their side so ours stays full. X2
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 02:59 AM
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I'm not really sure, but if I have a fence between the lake and my backyard I'm going to be one unhappy camper Hope that doesn't happen Joe. I did see a story a while back where they interviewed people that would lose land and I think there were some houses that would end up on the wrong side of it. Not sure why there hasn't been any news (that I've seen) about how the lakes would be handled.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 03:19 AM
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Who wants to bet they don't account for the fluctuation and you can drive right over the wall when the lake fills.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 03:32 AM
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Having managed the building of 80 miles of that fence in Cali, Arizona and Texas I can tell you they won't split the Lake with a fence. IBWC has a lot of power because of the Treaty, they will probably have final say on the designs again in Texas along the Rivers and lakes. The fence along the River was a nightmare, especially in the RGV area. But without question Arizona and Cali were the most dangerous.
It would indeed create a funnel, of course it would appear that in some areas that was the intent.
Oh the stories I could tell about that part of my life. I have already received calls asking if I am interested in managing the next build. The answer, Probably not!
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 03:42 AM
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EHHHHHH....Areas like Lake Amistad and the Big Bend are already natural barriers that make for difficult points of entry as it is, I doubt anything more than beefing up patrols and electronic monitoring would be required in areas where crossings are impeded by the natural terrain.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 05:45 AM
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Flooringit
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My guess is the us will buy or trade for the Mexico side of the lakes and run the fence on there side. Then Mexicans will need fishing liscense to go i the lake. And fish by our regulations. Who actually owns the dam?
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 11:53 AM
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Jobie99
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Having managed the building of 80 miles of that fence in Cali, Arizona and Texas I can tell you they won't split the Lake with a fence. IBWC has a lot of power because of the Treaty, they will probably have final say on the designs again in Texas along the Rivers and lakes. The fence along the River was a nightmare, especially in the RGV area. But without question Arizona and Cali were the most dangerous.
It would indeed create a funnel, of course it would appear that in some areas that was the intent.
Oh the stories I could tell about that part of my life. I have already received calls asking if I am interested in managing the next build. The answer, Probably not! I agree Chuck, my guess is they'll bulk up patrol near the lakes. There are currently 2 blimps and several boats patrolling on Falcon most days.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
[Re: Flooringit]
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01/26/17 01:21 PM
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My guess is the us will buy or trade for the Mexico side of the lakes and run the fence on there side. Then Mexicans will need fishing liscense to go i the lake. And fish by our regulations. Who actually owns the dam? Just my opinion but I don't see that happening at all. Both Falcon and Amistad were built as a joint agreement to provide power to those isolated areas (Mexico gets most of it). The actual border was set as the middle of the river nearly 200 years ago and I don't see an international border being moved to build a "Wall/Fence" or whatever they decide to do. What I would personally expect is a fence down the middle which would be much easier and realistic than an actual "Wall". A fence or wall down the middle will assist Law Enforcement and protect our borders, but will limit fishing areas on both lakes, which I am sure will not even be considered in the dicussions. Can you imagine the cost and logistics of building a concrete wall in 50-100 feet of water for literally 100 miles or so---Not to mention having to build it to accommodate water fluctuation----The technology is there to do so but the cost would be astronomical!! As far as the difference in fishing regulations from each side I would like to see the cast nets banned---These guys literally take thousands of quality/trophy fish from both these fisheries annually.
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Re: Falcon, Amistad, and The Wall
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01/26/17 01:59 PM
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There won't be a physical fence of any kind built in the water. Too costly and too hard to maintain. Aerostat balloons. With increased boots on the ground and no more catch and release. After watching a couple BP agents run headlong through impenetrable brush chasing 18 "immigrants" on Christmas day, I can assure you those guys are some badarse hombres who LOVE their jobs. They just want to see the laws enforced.
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