I agree with you. I wish I could delete mine. Just can't force myself to give up a lifetime powertrain warranty for it.

When we took off my egr and cooler you should have seen the amount of [censored] that's getting put right back through your motor ( think smokers lungs).

Another note: I don't know about the eco but Dodge has it in the owner manual that you take your truck to the shop at 60k miles to have your egr cleaned , for a great price of $850. If it failsafe you didn't have it cleaned guess who's paying that bill ? . Lets day I drive 240k miles on my truck , over thst time I have spent $3500 in egr cleans . Not this guy , that's how much my delete cost that will pay for itself in mpg and less problems.



Did they change the warranty ? My 2012 is 5 year 100k miles on drive train.

My dealer provides a 3rd party lifetime powertrain. Ram is 5 years, 100k still.

I am well aware of what egr does to the insides of the vehicle. Not a fan. If I had cummins reliability behind mine I would have deleted it already. These motors have been showing a pretty high rate of failure under 30k miles or so, for that reason I'm waiting a bit.

Also waiting to see what is coming from the lawsuit agains bosch/Chrysler regarding these trucks. There is also speculation that non of the light duty diesels are meeting the NOX emissions requirements and there will be no 2017 ecodiesels etc. Just going to let it go stock till the waters are a little calmer. If need be you can clean the system yourself with a foaming cleaner and a forced regen.

Hadn't heard anything about the 2017 trucks all being held. Are there new requirements or did they just now begin actually performing the tests?

From what I have read it is all coming from the lawsuit that has been brought up similar to the one against VW. Supposedly all 2017 light duty diesel vehicles have not been cleared for sale or something. Just read today thought that someone "was told" they would be coming back to the market shortly.

I don't really know what is true or what to believe. I do find it funny that at this point no 2017's are on lots and people who have ordered them have been left twiddling their thumbs.

Hmmm....weird. Glad I have my 2016 in the driveway already.

I wish you could get the ED in the rebel package. The gde tune is supposed to extend def fluid and not have as much soot build up.

GDE tune is awesome. But it costs a ton and will void your warranty if you have a problem the mechanic finds it.

My DEF was just barely over half full when I got the truck and I didn't have to put any in before my first oil change at 7,500 miles. Put a couple gallons in and I'm back going again.

Looks like the ecodiesel is going to make the 5:30 news on CBS tonight. Wonder if they will hit them as hard as Volkswagen?

I think Ram's infractions are much less serious. VW didn't even have DEF and SCR equipment in their early models, and the first TDI units to get those had really undersized units that weren't even capable of performing up to EPA standards. Ram's emissions systems hardware is good. They just have software modes that reduce the effectiveness of the system during certain modes of operation. Whether those are necessary from an engineering standpoint or purely done to increase hp/mpg performance, who knows.

Do I wish Ram wasn't in the news for my motor? Of course. Am I gonna worry about it right now? Not at all. I still love my truck more than any other vehicle I've ever owned and will keep driving it til they buy it back or come up with a fix or maybe FCA will just provide an explanation to the EPA and that will be the end of it.

Even if the fix reduced mpg by 10%, it would still get 25% better gas mileage than anything else on the road with a tow rating of at least 8k lbs. But if they reduce mpg, I am also fully expecting some sort of payout from FCA, which will just be icing on the cake.

Just be sure and set the emergency brake, I heard that they are slipping out of park.

Never heard of that one. I've parked on some steep inclines with mine and haven't had any issues. I'll set it from now on, but I'm surprised that I haven't seen anything about that on the Ram ED forum. Maybe I just missed it.

Yeah I was alluding to a news piece on CNN about a month ago, it appears that some actor was killed by his own truck when it crushed him between the vehicle and his gate a while back. I think he might have played in a star wars film, anyway's they said that some Dodge vehicles were slipping out of park.

I got a recall on my Grand Cherokee for that. No fix yet.