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#11917246 - 11/04/16 04:09 PM Missing on Frogs
Kiss88 Offline
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Wondering if i can get some help and experience advice. I was fishing with a ribbit top toad yesterday....had about 15-20 bass hit it. Only caught 4. When they hit i am really in the slack and waiting for a tug then setting the hook. I can feel the fish for 1-2 sec and then he's gone! I am trying to be patient and not jerk it out of their mouth too soon. Cant figure out what im doing wrong. I am fishing in some fairly thick grass. Also....i am bending the hooks out slightly as to increase my hook ups (which isnt working for me). Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

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#11917248 - 11/04/16 04:10 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
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What action rod are you using? Are you using braid?
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#11917250 - 11/04/16 04:13 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
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Medium Heavy 7' rod with mono. I have tried braid (a whole nother topic) and dont like it. I dont get the distance and it seems to knot up after a half day of using it.

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#11917255 - 11/04/16 04:17 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
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Frog fishing almost requires braid. Mono has a ton of stretch and will cost you fish. The braid will also cut through the vegetation which will help get those fish in the boat as well. I would also try stepping it up to a H action rod. It sounds like your approach to hook sets and your lure mods are spot on. Just need to tweak your gear a bit. Braid can be frustrating but it is necessary when throwing frogs.
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#11917265 - 11/04/16 04:25 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
Kiss88 Offline
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Sounds like I need to build a love/hate relationship with braid. Will also look into a heavy action rod. Thanks for the info! Greatly appreciated.

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#11917270 - 11/04/16 04:29 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
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No problem man. Good luck thumb
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#11917280 - 11/04/16 04:32 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
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I can tell you from experience that the mono will not work. I lost two quality aka big fish in a tournament using it. 65lb braid and a 7'6 heavy rod keeps them coming you way.
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#11917285 - 11/04/16 04:35 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
Kiss88 Offline
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Thanks for input.
So is there something I need to do to combat the BS that comes with braid? Or does everyone deal with braid issues?

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#11917300 - 11/04/16 04:46 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
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What issues do you have with braid? I spool it on everything I can get away with and use a fluoro leader when I need to specifically because braid seems to NOT cause me problems. Only problem is picking out a backlash but as heavy as frogs are you can put your brakes on and thumb it and still chunk it quite a ways.
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#11917330 - 11/04/16 05:04 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
Kiss88 Offline
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Seems to get knotted up. After half days use or so....i throw it and a knot catches and my line slaps the water. Not a backlash just something snagging and stopping my line in mid cast


Edited by Kiss88 (11/04/16 05:04 PM)

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#11917356 - 11/04/16 05:40 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
blackhawk19 Offline
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It took me a while to find a braid I like. J-Braid X8 has been working for me on the frog bite.
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#11917364 - 11/04/16 05:48 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
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Originally Posted By: Kiss88
Seems to get knotted up. After half days use or so....i throw it and a knot catches and my line slaps the water. Not a backlash just something snagging and stopping my line in mid cast


Hmm gotcha. Haven't had that issue, I use power pro and it's worked fine. Anything I have to pick out is my fault !!
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#11917366 - 11/04/16 05:49 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
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I use a Heavy action 7ft rod with 65 pound # 832 Suffix braid and I don't have a problem fishing frogs with it. It sounds like your line is getting stuck on itself on your reel spool and it sticks during your cast. Try tightening up on your tension knob just a little and don't cast as hard as you have been. See if that helps.

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#11917373 - 11/04/16 05:54 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: ezbassin]
RipX21 Offline
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Registered: 01/28/03
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Lake Fork Tackle makes a trailer hook which has two loops that hook over the double hook on frogs which come with a hook.. This hook has one hook which extends out behind the frog and stands up. It works thru grass and lily pads well without hanging and it does a great job of hooking the fish.

Try them You'll like them...


Edited by RipX21 (11/04/16 05:55 PM)

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#11917445 - 11/04/16 06:40 PM Re: Missing on Frogs [Re: Kiss88]
Kiss88 Offline
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Sweet!!!! All the info is helpful. Thanks to all!

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