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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Skeeterbbq]
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10/27/16 08:00 PM
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SAKS
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I agree. Never say never.
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Dr JL]
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10/27/16 08:06 PM
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epicoutdoors
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Dang it epicoutdoors! I was just starting to feel positive! Idk, you guys are all making good points for and against. Very interesting topic. Those spots do sound good Mr Harper. For me I guess it's unlikely but never say never. I held the highest of hopes for many years that it could happen but with the apparent indifference in giving our lakes the chance with great bass habitat, the overall condition of the bass herd in Texas is less than it could be. I think the SL program may have better results if it was the "Save The Aquatic Vegetation" program.
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Skeeterbbq]
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10/27/16 08:09 PM
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LakeForkGroupie
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I have been thinking the same thing as the guys saying where are all the fish weighing in the teens. I doubt there is a 20lber swimming year around, but you catch the right fish, full of eggs with few lbs of meat in the belly, it could weigh 20lbs.
Here are the top 50 fish in Texas over the last 10 years. 45 Lake Fork 15.5 25.25 2/21/2006 Billy Pfeil 42 Merritt (Private) 15.54 27.12 3/9/2007 Jesse Roberson 48 Choke Canyon Reservoir 15.45 26.25 1/21/2009 Brad Bookmyer 29 Conroe 15.93 27 1/30/2009 Ricky Bearden 16 Caddo 16.17 26.5 3/20/2010 Keith Burns 39 Lake Fork 15.61 25.25 3/22/2010 James Quisenberry 19 O. H. Ivie 16.08 28 4/30/2010 Jerry Bales 37 Falcon 15.63 28 1/7/2011 Tommy Law 24 Austin 16.03 28.25 1/27/2011 T.J. Nissen 20 Caddo 16.07 27 3/18/2011 Sean Swank 22 Lake Fork 16.04 25.75 2/2/2013 Richard Scibek
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: LakeForkGroupie]
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10/27/16 08:18 PM
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GeoFisher
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Problem is that the ones you listed already have that "extra" poundage due to the time of year they were caught.
Great thread here guys. Just the thought that there are NONE or 500 of them swimming around in this state is fascinating to me. It's quite humbling, with all the technology we have, and all the knowledge we think to be correct, we simply do not have solid evidence that one does or does not swim in Texas waters.
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Skeeterbbq]
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10/27/16 08:18 PM
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Brian Spagnola
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Im not an avid bass fisherman but if we can grow a 121 pound catfish, it's reasonable to think we can grow a 20 pound bass.
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: epicoutdoors]
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10/27/16 08:43 PM
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Ken A.
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Dang it epicoutdoors! I was just starting to feel positive! Idk, you guys are all making good points for and against. Very interesting topic. Those spots do sound good Mr Harper. For me I guess it's unlikely but never say never. I held the highest of hopes for many years that it could happen but with the apparent indifference in giving our lakes the chance with great bass habitat, the overall condition of the bass herd in Texas is less than it could be. I think the SL program may have better results if it was the "Save The Aquatic Vegetation" program. I too have held out high hopes for the Lone Star State to produce a 20+ pound bass. I really fear our window of opportunity is closing on public lakes however. I believe the best shot we have at seeing a legit 20 pound bass is from an intensively managed private body of water like La Perla or Camelot Bell and even then, I think our hot summers work against it. A bass has to live long enough to get that big. A bass has to be the apex predator in that body of water and it has to have truck loads of food! Very few private lake owners are willing to cull like they need to or able to spend the money it takes to keep the food source where it needs to be to grow true giants.
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Ken A.]
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10/27/16 08:59 PM
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Huckleberry
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Bottom right picture in the link looks like a 6#'r
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Skeeterbbq]
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10/27/16 09:04 PM
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GIG'EM AGGIES
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The original post was " is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere ? not would someone catch one which obviously most of us doubt will happen for various reasons, mostly because no one would spend the time or effort it would take. I suppose if someone would put up $1,ooo,ooo for a 20+ there would be some takers but not likely to happen. I think Mr. Harper is on the right track to locate one where the water is clear enough to scuba dive and maybe film one but to actually catch one of these beast is another story. I've caught a 14+ and certainly it was one of the highlites of my angling career but to be perfectly honest I'd just as soon catch a 20lb limit in a tournament than spend the time and effort to try and catch 1 20lb'er and I'm probably not alone. So Mr. 20 lb'er out there wherever you are, and I know you're out there, you are safe from this 'ol bass man. We'll keep talking and thinking and arguing about you though cause that's what us bass chasers do.
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed. Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Ken A.]
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10/27/16 09:11 PM
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Mike Keenan
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When the main food source in California is stocked rainbow trout, that makes a major difference and those bass out west are trained to listen for the delivery truck. Take guys like Bob Crupi, he would tie off in deep water with two anchors and split shot a live crawfish, then wait. Mike Long, throws only big baits and he catches huge bass. Bill Murphy, studied the movements of the bass out there.
Guys like these are targeting specifically 15 pound plus bass that's it. Another factor is those California lakes, they are all seasonal and you can only fish certain hours of the day. You have to buy a daily fishing permit along with your license.
Is there a 20 pound plus bass here, I have no doubt. I will use Ray Roberts as my lake of choice... the stock tanks that were flooded when the lake started to fill had big bass in them already. I'm sure fork has one or two in there as well. Someone just needs to target those 15 pound plus bass and will stumble onto one of 20. I just think with the size of our lakes, no trout but we do have tilapia that helps too but the size of our lakes compared to Southern California lakes, our lake are 5-10 times bigger, it's harder to find them.
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Ken A.]
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10/27/16 09:39 PM
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Donald Harper
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Sandy DeFrescos story, which is the last one, is interesting. Sounds like Mr. Rose may have had something to do with this fish.
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Donald Harper]
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10/27/16 09:55 PM
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Mike Keenan
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Sandy DeFrescos story, which is the last one, is interesting. Sounds like Mr. Rose may have had something to do with this fish. Bingo...
R.I.P. Mike "pappy" "broken rod" Green born 07-16-62 on to better fishing 06-10-08. www.basscat.com
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Donald Harper]
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10/27/16 10:10 PM
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Sandy DeFresco’s story, which is the last one, is interesting. Sounds like Mr. Rose may have had something to do with this fish. Ha, Mr. Rose has found himself in the LMB history book and for all the wrong reasons and back in the TFF.
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed. Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Skeeterbbq]
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10/27/16 10:23 PM
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Skeeterbbq
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I agree with a previous comment about the state and vegetation,it seems as if we have entered an all out war on hydrilla.
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Re: Is there a 20+ in Texas somewhere?
[Re: Skeeterbbq]
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10/27/16 10:37 PM
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LakeForkGroupie
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All this talk about what it takes to grow a big bass and where it has to be. It makes me think that George Perry might not have had a 22lb Bass. Real few details about that fish, man and catch. Just doesn't make sense in Georgia.
But hey if it can happen in Georgia, why not Texas.
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