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 fast reels
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10/19/16 01:09 PM
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Lucky Al
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I don't mean retrieve ratio, but I've seen guys casting underhanded on youtube videos and I can't do that except with real heavy baits. I have good reels but none can do that. What will work for 3/8 - 1/2 oz. lures for underhand casting?
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Re: fast reels
[Re: Lucky Al]
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10/19/16 01:19 PM
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Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
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Have to loosen your brakes and I mean loosen them! gonna be easier to back lash but thats the only way you will be slinging light lures with a pitching style of casting.
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Re: fast reels
[Re: Lucky Al]
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10/19/16 01:32 PM
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catslayer
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Your settings are messed up
"I'll never mess with bee's or wasp anymore, and I'll never gig another beaver..." Words from a man who learned things the hard way
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Re: fast reels
[Re: Lucky Al]
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10/19/16 01:46 PM
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Mike_Soriano
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Your reel must be REAL tight if your can't get a 1/2 oz bait to pitch. Like said above, loosen it up and put your thumb on the spool
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Re: fast reels
[Re: Lucky Al]
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10/19/16 01:50 PM
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RudyDep
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Oh boy, well...its not that difficult when you load up the rod when underhand casting, BUT, having said that, I agree that your reel is set way too tight. YouTube has a lot of good instructional videos on setting up your reel. Be prepared to pick out many a backlash...
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Re: fast reels
[Re: RudyDep]
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10/19/16 04:08 PM
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Lucky Al
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Oh boy, well...its not that difficult when you load up the rod when underhand casting, BUT, having said that, I agree that your reel is set way too tight. YouTube has a lot of good instructional videos on setting up your reel. Be prepared to pick out many a backlash... I'll try again adjusting it, but I already get my share of backlashes.
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Re: fast reels
[Re: Lucky Al]
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10/19/16 04:16 PM
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Bobby Milam
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Backlashes from pitching or flipping underhand or normal casting? You'll have to learn to ride the thumb. With my Lewis for example, my brakes are almost off. My tension screw clicks so it is easy. I set it to the proper tension to cast then when I want to flip I loosen it one click and the bait will free fall. Pitch easy and smooth. Don't try to muscle it or it will backlash. It can flip heavy or weightless with ease. It just takes practice
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Re: fast reels
[Re: Lucky Al]
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10/19/16 05:54 PM
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Lucky Al
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Normal casting underhanded. I don't really know what my problem is. Maybe slower reflexes at my old age? I learned to baitcast before reels even had free spools, and I was really good at it. I even won a casting contest in Jr. High. so I do use my thumb always. Hmm . .
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Re: fast reels
[Re: Lucky Al]
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10/19/16 10:30 PM
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Bassalong
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Do the thing where you set your tension so the bait just falls so when it hits the deck you get only one or two spool revolutions. Then mess with your centrifugal brakes, increase or decrease depending on the distance you are trying to achieve. If you can't get satisfactory performance from this, start decreasing the amount of line on the spool and continue adjusting your brakes till you get the distance with the weight you want to use. Of course you have to use your thumb to some extent. But there will be a place where you can cast comfortably and each cast is not an adventure. If you are doing a roll cast use a rod stiffness that will flex with the weight of the bait you are trying to throw. Casting is an individual thing. A setup that works for one person may not work for another.
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Re: fast reels
[Re: Bassalong]
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10/20/16 05:29 AM
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Hook in Mouth
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Do the thing where you set your tension so the bait just falls so when it hits the deck you get only one or two spool revolutions. Then mess with your centrifugal brakes, increase or decrease depending on the distance you are trying to achieve. If you can't get satisfactory performance from this, start decreasing the amount of line on the spool and continue adjusting your brakes till you get the distance with the weight you want to use. Of course you have to use your thumb to some extent. But there will be a place where you can cast comfortably and each cast is not an adventure. If you are doing a roll cast use a rod stiffness that will flex with the weight of the bait you are trying to throw. Casting is an individual thing. A setup that works for one person may not work for another.
Great post...this actually helped me. Thanks
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Re: fast reels
[Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
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10/20/16 01:46 PM
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Michael.Beaty
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Have to loosen your brakes and I mean loosen them! gonna be easier to back lash but thats the only way you will be slinging light lures with a pitching style of casting. +1 this is the only way to do it. It's gonna take a few back lashes to get good but that's part of it
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Re: fast reels
[Re: Lucky Al]
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10/20/16 03:22 PM
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DillonCan'tFish
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I am still trying to get the hang of flipping and pitching myself. My biggest problem was spooling up too much line on the reel. I stopped filling the reel all the way up and it helped me. Also, make sure you aren't trying to flip/pitch with old, coily line. I use mono 90% of the time and it will get coily on you quick if left in the sun. I will hook a lure to my trailer fender, walk out as far as you feel is a good distance and give your line a few good stretches. This will straighten out coiled up line if it's not too bad. And identify any weak spots you may have in your line!
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Re: fast reels
[Re: Bassalong]
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10/20/16 08:23 PM
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Hoghunter36
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Do the thing where you set your tension so the bait just falls so when it hits the deck you get only one or two spool revolutions. Then mess with your centrifugal brakes, increase or decrease depending on the distance you are trying to achieve. If you can't get satisfactory performance from this, start decreasing the amount of line on the spool and continue adjusting your brakes till you get the distance with the weight you want to use. Of course you have to use your thumb to some extent. But there will be a place where you can cast comfortably and each cast is not an adventure. If you are doing a roll cast use a rod stiffness that will flex with the weight of the bait you are trying to throw. Casting is an individual thing. A setup that works for one person may not work for another.
This is how you start right here. Practice until you can back off all the way. When you get good you will only be relying on your thumb to do the braking. This sounds real simple but if you will remember to always stop the bait with your thumb it will help. Eventually with a whole lot of practice you will learn to feather your bait into the water which will help you with A quitter entry and more accurate cast. The rod you use is going to be just as important as the reel depending on your bait type and weight.
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