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#11880216 - 10/14/16 08:35 AM Flatfish Migration......
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The Fall migration of Flounder from our Bays to the GOM has been slowed due to water temperatures. Water temps remain in the 80's which means flounder are staying put. I expect it may be Mid Nov. for any real movement. For many decades, just something to go by, "When you see Ducks and Geese Migrating"...it's flounder time!! We have two more weeks before the daily limit changes from 5 to 2. This usually lasts thru the month of Nov. but has been known to continue thru Mid Dec. Pay attention to the regs. On another note...during the month of Nov., NO GIGGING AT ALL. Getem' while you can folks. Stay Safe and remember to Take a Kid Fishing. fish


Edited by V-Bottom (10/15/16 07:20 PM)
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#11880950 - 10/14/16 03:42 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Thanks for the update.
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#11882387 - 10/15/16 08:27 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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This upcoming weekends front should get some moving. I was out in the bay today and saw a few eaters chasing shrimp up shallow. Could only get one tiny 10" flattie to commit.

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#11882402 - 10/15/16 08:32 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Little males are out....Usually I can tell they are moving is when I catch a nice one, turn it over and look at the belly. If it's RED...and looks scratched up..that's a good sign.


Edited by V-Bottom (10/15/16 08:35 PM)
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#11883066 - 10/16/16 11:58 AM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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what is a good artificial plastic for flounder and trout.
thanks
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#11883242 - 10/16/16 02:41 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: four fingers]
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Originally Posted By: four fingers
what is a good artificial plastic for flounder and trout.
thanks


Since this thread concerns Flounder, let's stick with Flounder only. Their are many arti's one can use. Flounder are SIGHT FEEDERS. They like FLASHY baits. That means some color that will catch their attention. Soft baits to Jigs...that's a personal choice. Soft baits...Red/White Tail, solid White,solid Red,Chart.,Yellow etc. Carolina rigged to Tandem rigged....Gulp 4"New Pennies are good..baits with Curly Tails are used.
I would like you to Google up video's by John Skinner. He's fishes the East Coast and is very knowledgeable in flounder catching....in the surf or deep waters. You will get addicted to his video's. Last year I ordered all kinds of baits he used and discussed...from Spro Bucktail jigs, weighted hooks, Gulps 4" mullet Imitations in the above colors. Can't wait to use them this year. Good Luck...
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#11887149 - 10/18/16 12:04 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Plum Chartreuse Bass Assassins.

Here is a pic of one taken back in 2005 when a 11 Yo Tim caught a nice flounder with one rigged on a Chartreuse/RedEye Rockport Rattler jig I invented.

11 years later that set up still works catching flounder.


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#11887817 - 10/18/16 07:05 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Me and some buddies are headed to Bolivar a little northeast of the ferry this weekend. This will be the earliest I've ever gone but it's the only time we can all make it. We will fish the concrete walls and maximize the dock lights. We're taking a portable green light and going to throw everything from Fish bites to Gulp at the flounder. I guess we will see if the front and timing will be good or bad.? Any thoughts on my plan?

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#11887911 - 10/18/16 07:52 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Flounder really like a variety of flies too or that has been my experience. I've never particularly focused on flounder, but it has a been a nice unexpected benefit to fly fishing. The flies they hit usually have a lot of flash. I seem to have better luck getting them in on the fly versus conventional plastic tails. My biggest on the fly came this past March at 4 pounds.

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#11887930 - 10/18/16 07:58 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Work the Incoming Tide...it won't be that big of a Front coming thru and I suspect it will not drop water temps to a noticeable change. In 2 days it will be gone and temps will go back up !! What area/s one fishes down here will determine HOW you fish that area. Some areas are good for outgoing tides and vice versa. It always pays to be prepared for the changes. You may want to rig a Slip Cork setup. I use a regular 6" styrofoam..non slit, weighted cork. $1 a piece. at Cut Rate. I always buy a dozen at a time. BTW: I normally use Live bait under a cork. For Flounder I'll use finger mullet, mud minnows or my Flashy Jig setups..Good Luck
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#11889853 - 10/19/16 07:54 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Thanks for the reply V-bottom. I will be prepared. We will also try Rollover Pass as we will only be 20 minutes from there. I've never used mud minnows so I may give them a shot. We're excited as hell just to get salty. A few years back we went down and I only slept a total of 8 hours over 3 days. Booze, and a faulty AC didn't help but the itch to fish was the main reason. I look forward to any updates you post.

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#11890557 - 10/20/16 10:38 AM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Thanks....^^^^
That front is right on our door steps. It will be refreshing to feel cooler temps and lower humidities here. Water temps won't drop that much to get flatties moving. The smaller males will move out when the water reaches close to the 70* mark. Altho there are catches of descent flatties now and then, the big females won't move until the water gets close to 60*. Just getting out,catching some salty air, plus trying my luck at "feeching" is what's it's all about for me. Good Luck and let us know how ya did.
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#11894767 - 10/22/16 07:39 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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It has been reported that flounder in the 15"-18" range are being caught around G-town. These are the smaller males in the process of moving toward the Gulf. The Galv. Ship Channel and the TC Dike area (on the end-south side) have been producing. Most of the folks fishing the TC Dike are using finger mullet and/or mud minnows. Using your cast net to catch a few finger mullet is best, just take the time to stop near a ramp and snag a few. This way they are fresh and won't "roll over" on ya. I have know idea what they cost a dozen at the bait camps but I would venture to say $8-$10 a doz. Finger mullet need Oxygen....mud minnows don't. An aerator or an O2 setup, or tossing a bait bucket in the water will do. A flashy soft artificial bait will work if you throw arti's. and the go-to 4" Gulp New Pennies w/ Chart. tail. 4" Mullet imitations w/curly tails...red/white, white,chart, pearl/chart etc.. Bag limit is 5 until Nov.1st...then it's ONLY 2. No gigging during Nov. Good luck
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#11895261 - 10/23/16 09:10 AM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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While they are slow to move to the passes and constriction points, it's still also a little early for that, best places for good action right now are marsh cuts and areas where those marsh cuts meet secondary bays. Some nice fish mixed in in those areas. It will be quite a while before the action gets good at the typical lower bay constriction points like Pelican SWP and Rollover.

good list on the baits, Chicken Boys tipped with shrimp or flounder belly or Pro Cure works well. Also Flounder pounders are still great when working deeper channels. They work.
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#11906566 - 10/29/16 11:22 AM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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In addition to the 2 fish bag limit and no gigging during Nov., from Dec.1-14th their is also a 2 fish bag limit BUT you can gig..still 2 fish limit.
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#11909423 - 10/31/16 05:04 AM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Remember that the flounder fall migration is flounder moving to the Gulf to spawn. What most people do not understand or know is that the timing is based ont he cold weather and the shrimp moving to the Gulf! That's right. The BAIT moves and the flounder follow. Although they spawn at this time of the year they time it with the bait movement. been that way for as long as there has been fish.
Follow the bait and you will find the fish...
On that note, all small at SWP. Gigged and fished and caught 2o small ones Saturday night and Sunday morning. All too small to gig but saw PLENTY on the banks.
This weekend is the next front and it should last two days. Two days is enough to cool the water so that the shrimp start moving.
Get your Gulp out and fish next week and have fun!!!
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#11931723 - 11/13/16 12:55 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Here it is Mid November and more flatfish are showing up..larger ones also. With cooler temps at night and water temps dropping, the flatties will be moving out to the Gulf in deeper waters. The Bolivar Ferry area around the ICW and pilings is a key spot, TC Dike, Galv.Channel, all inshore drainage areas, SWP,Galv.Yacht Basin area, USCG Station (in certain areas) and eventually the Jetties near the rocks. As water temps drop finger mullet will get scarce. If you can catch your own..great! 2 fish limit....14" minimum
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#11932890 - 11/14/16 01:26 AM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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How about now? Flounders still stay put?
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#11932937 - 11/14/16 04:01 AM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Originally Posted By: V-Bottom
It has been reported that flounder in the 15"-18" range are being caught around G-town. These are the smaller males in the process of moving toward the Gulf. The Galv. Ship Channel and the TC Dike area (on the end-south side) have been producing. Most of the folks fishing the TC Dike are using finger mullet and/or mud minnows. Using your cast net to catch a few finger mullet is best, just take the time to stop near a ramp and snag a few. This way they are fresh and won't "roll over" on ya. I have know idea what they cost a dozen at the bait camps but I would venture to say $8-$10 a doz. Finger mullet need Oxygen....mud minnows don't. An aerator or an O2 setup, or tossing a bait bucket in the water will do. A flashy soft artificial bait will work if you throw arti's. and the go-to 4" Gulp New Pennies w/ Chart. tail. 4" Mullet imitations w/curly tails...red/white, white,chart, pearl/chart etc.. Bag limit is 5 until Nov.1st...then it's ONLY 2. No gigging during Nov. Good luck


Sorry but I disagree.
Most males only get to be 12" to 14" and usually stay in the Gulf. The females are the ones that get bigger than 14" and are in the bays getting ready to move to the Gulf to spawn with said smaller males in the Gulf and is what everyone wants to catch during the "run".
I can give you Chester Moore's email if you like.


Edited by kickingback (11/14/16 04:01 AM)
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#11934175 - 11/14/16 04:48 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Females are starting to show at my dock @ the mouth of Copano.
nailed a 2 fish limit yesterday, both fish were 19" females, & THICK!
appears they've just begun egg production, sacs were very small.
got them on my new favorite jig- a Chickenboy 3" flounder king in classic red/white tail on a 1/16th oz Rockport rattler in white.
I use the smaller size because I find I don't have to wait for them to "eat it",
feel the thump, drill 'em!
finding them shallow now, 2-3' on grass & reef edges. thumb
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#11934360 - 11/14/16 06:27 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Wait ... "your" dock? Where is said dock? I need to get away from family and go fishing after finals!!
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#11936599 - 11/16/16 06:42 AM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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yes, MY dock. come on down, Zack!
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#11958571 - 11/30/16 10:39 AM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Yes, these warm temps have them still spread through the system (whether that is Rockport / Copano or Galveston) ... GOOD fish are being caught from the upper marsh cuts all the way through the ship channel now. It's finally gotten started at the ship channel but it's not gang busters yet... it's going to take another BIG front to drop the tide and flush the bay. But there will be some good fish caught now that it's headed in the right direction.
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#11959629 - 11/30/16 11:16 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: TroutSupport.com]
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Originally Posted By: TroutSupport.com
Yes, these warm temps have them still spread through the system (whether that is Rockport / Copano or Galveston) ... GOOD fish are being caught from the upper marsh cuts all the way through the ship channel now. It's finally gotten started at the ship channel but it's not gang busters yet... it's going to take another BIG front to drop the tide and flush the bay. But there will be some good fish caught now that it's headed in the right direction.


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#11982684 - 12/13/16 06:13 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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THe Big Females are moving now. How do I know? The Geese are Migrating...I heard a flock today.
Seriously, the big ones are on the move. Gettem' while ya can. We are having some Roller Coaster weather now days and it's going to continue. Be safe out there and remember to take a Kid Fishing
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#11994183 - 12/19/16 09:18 PM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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So the red marks are from them moving a lot? I caught some with the red marks and didn't know why they had them.

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#11994806 - 12/20/16 10:19 AM Re: Flatfish Migration...... [Re: V-Bottom]
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Sometimes that can be from dolphins trying to eat them. It could be from them hitting structure, rocks, or barnacles as well as they feed around structure.
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