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#11872534 - 10/09/16 06:56 PM Fuel additive to fight ethanol?
dhelms Offline
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What is the best fuel additive to help fight the ethanol issues in gas?

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#11872552 - 10/09/16 07:03 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
kevine80 Offline
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blue stabil marine

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#11872573 - 10/09/16 07:14 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
dhelms Offline
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That's what I've use in the past. But I had a guy tell me that stabile would gum up after time. I always thought that's what it was supposed to prevent.

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#11872578 - 10/09/16 07:15 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
dhelms Offline
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Just wasn't sure with all the products on the market now days.

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#11872774 - 10/09/16 08:59 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
kevine80 Offline
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sea foam is also good
have used stabil for years with no problems
keep it in your boat every single time -- a lot of times people forget {im gonna go back soon so i dont need to do it this time)
then they have fuel problems - gotta blame someone
any major market product will work fine if you use them with diligence !

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#11872847 - 10/09/16 09:26 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
Ol Man River Offline
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The 2 stroke shops in my area all say to use Startron...it works for my 2 cycle yard equipment. Before using Startron, I had to replace primer bulbs and fuel lines every 2 years. Based on this, I now use it in my boat fuel tank.

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#11872912 - 10/09/16 09:48 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
rongleaves Offline
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I run seafoam every few tanks and stabil all the time. Also use seafoam in everything I own that burns gas and have never had to deal with ethanol issues.

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#11873114 - 10/10/16 06:22 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
dhelms Offline
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Thanks guys,for the info.

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#11873126 - 10/10/16 06:48 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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I use a Racor water separator filter that gets changed every year.
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#11873308 - 10/10/16 09:17 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: Bob Landry]
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Originally Posted By: Bob Landry
I use a Racor water separator filter that gets changed every year.

Still need Stabil and Seafoam or something similiar...
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#11873421 - 10/10/16 10:14 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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Best way to fight ethanol is to write your Congressmen/women and demand the repeal of the ethanol mandate. E15 will be here next year unless action is taken.
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#11874731 - 10/11/16 06:18 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
dhelms Offline
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Is there a particular type of seafoam to use, just as stabil has the marine version of their product?

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#11875645 - 10/11/16 03:18 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
kevine80 Offline
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nope just seafoam
early on stabil was red-- non ethanol--blue for ethanol---now both are for ethanol

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#11876135 - 10/11/16 08:47 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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Additives simply raise the saturation level of the fuel. The water is still there, the additives just let it hold more before it separates. It helps, but only kind of.
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#11876186 - 10/11/16 09:09 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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A little Startron every time I put gas in the boat. No issues since I started using it several years ago. I did have some fuel issues before that using blue Stabil for ethanol.
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#11876208 - 10/11/16 09:20 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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I don't use any additives. Never had a problem.

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#11876452 - 10/12/16 06:22 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
dhelms Offline
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What kind of fuel issues using blue stabil for ethanol, jbobo?

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#11876579 - 10/12/16 07:58 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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Stabil, any color, and a good water separator/filter. Seafoam or Berryman's B-12 every third tank. Never had a fuel problem. This year my boat sat from February to September due to my wife's cancer, and when I did get to the lake, fired right up and never missed a beat.
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#11876731 - 10/12/16 09:09 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: Dubee]
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Originally Posted By: Dubee
I don't use any additives. Never had a problem.


My dealer and his mechanic said not to use any of that stuff. I'm at 200 hours on my Etec, just changed the Racor for the second time and no sign of water or contaminants. I think adding something to prevent carbon accumulation would be money better spent, specially if you run a lot at low RPMs. JMHO I do use that every other tank or so. I really think a quality water separator filter is a better bang for the buck, but if you feel good using additives, then there really isn't a compelling argument not to do it.
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#11877634 - 10/12/16 04:39 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
Freeman Clark Offline
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Don't run any fuel additives in your mower,weed eater,chain saw, tiller see how long they will start.I add a fuel additive to every thing I own.I am running a 2001 115 yamaha with a ton of hours.It has had Ring Free and Biobor EB every tank all of its life.Never been in the shop.


Edited by Freeman Clark (10/12/16 04:41 PM)

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#11877878 - 10/12/16 07:36 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: Freeman Clark]
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Originally Posted By: Freeman Clark
Don't run any fuel additives in your mower,weed eater,chain saw, tiller see how long they will start.I add a fuel additive to every thing I own.I am running a 2001 115 yamaha with a ton of hours.It has had Ring Free and Biobor EB every tank all of its life.Never been in the shop.


Mine is a 2001 Merc 225. Atleast a couple thousand hours. No additives and not a single problem.

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#11878050 - 10/12/16 08:44 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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I had a 91 200hp Evinrude that I drained the tank twice in 1 month after using blue stabill every fill. I drained it the first time and cleaned the tank.
It had some water from condensation.
A mechanic drained it 3 weeks later and saved it in glass containers for me to see.
(True, he could have used some one else's gas, but I have no proof).
The ethanol had separated and settled to the bottom. It had some water bubbles on the bottom.
The top layer was blue colored from my 2 stroke oil and the portion of gas that wasn't ethanol.
It had sat for 2 days in the glass bottles, according to him.
We shook it around a lot, and when it mixed it turned a milky gray color.
I did a lot of internet searching and liked what I read about Startron.
It is suppose to stop phase separation of ethanol for longer periods of time.
I do have a racon water separator on my present boat, but use Startron to help with phase separation of the ethanol mix.
I swore by red Stabil until ethanol was forced on us. I tried the blue, but didn't like it, so went to Startron.
Everyone has different ideas about all sorts of things which makes life interesting.
Most have had good results with what they use in their motors and should continue to do what they have been doing.
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#11878165 - 10/12/16 10:04 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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those convinced against theyre will



are of the same opinion still

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#11878223 - 10/12/16 11:58 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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BIOBOR EB

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#11880946 - 10/14/16 03:41 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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Stabil
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#11880995 - 10/14/16 04:16 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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I wish someone would show me phase separation. I have had gasoline sit for months and never had any problem. I have run a fuel filter/separator and when I change the filter, I always cut it open to inspect and have never found any water. It just doesn't happen.
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#11881071 - 10/14/16 05:22 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
dhelms Offline
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Thanks for all the input. I've decided to stick with the blue stabil

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#11881524 - 10/15/16 03:47 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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#11881572 - 10/15/16 06:54 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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Look up True Brand Marine and watch the video's they have on their site. Interesting. That's what I use.
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#11882397 - 10/15/16 08:31 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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Thanks. I'll look it up

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#11882606 - 10/15/16 10:45 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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#11882928 - 10/16/16 09:59 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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Put some fresh fuel in a glass jar. Let a fan blow across the jar of fuel for a while. Let us know what you find.Will be water below the fuel.

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#11883068 - 10/16/16 12:01 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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#11883255 - 10/16/16 02:48 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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I heard our awesome government was going to allow e-15. Then what?

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#11883257 - 10/16/16 02:50 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
dhelms Offline
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Fuel additives won't help with that. My pro xs can't take 15% ethanol.

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#11883340 - 10/16/16 03:41 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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Originally Posted By: dhelms
I heard our awesome government was going to allow e-15. Then what?



Best way to fight ethanol is to write your Congressmen/women and demand the repeal of the ethanol mandate. E15 will be here next year unless action is taken.
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#11884154 - 10/16/16 08:43 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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I'll do that for sure. I wish every forum member would also.

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#11884820 - 10/17/16 10:13 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: Dubee]
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Originally Posted By: Dubee
I don't use any additives. Never had a problem.

Same here. Might as well be buying snake oil

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#11885892 - 10/17/16 06:52 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
dhelms Offline
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Where do you buy the snake oil? grin

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#11885908 - 10/17/16 07:00 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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Write your congressman and senators. Takes about 1 minute to send a letter to all of them.

http://smarterfuelfuture.org/take-action...ntent=ClickHere
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#11889827 - 10/19/16 07:43 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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I buy non-ethanol gas at the Cenex in Gainsville. I will buy ethanol gas once in a while and use Stabil 360 Marine when I do.
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#11890686 - 10/20/16 11:36 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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Biobor EB and Ring Free in the 09 250 Yamaha HPDI. It has 330 hours on it and has never been in for a fuel related problem.
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#11891412 - 10/20/16 05:50 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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I use SeaFoam and Blue Stabil Marine formula. Only issue I have had is that the ethanol ate a hole through one of my fuel sensors and caused a major fuel leak while I was in Venice, La fishing. It couldn't have happened when I was close to home.

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#11891653 - 10/20/16 08:12 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
dhelms Offline
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Dang!! That ethanol must be some bad stuff.

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#11895084 - 10/22/16 11:38 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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It is!

Best option is to avoid ethanol altogether.

If you think that's too hard to do, then try harder.
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#11895170 - 10/23/16 07:24 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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I know of no chemical or additive that will stop phase separation. All fuels with Ethanol will eventually separate. Your only defense is to use non-ethanol fuel, or use ethanol added fuels as soon as possible, before the separation phase begins.

Make sure the fuel lines from your tank, to the motor, and all parts in between are made from a Ethanol resistant material, and replace every 2 to 3 years.
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#11896481 - 10/24/16 06:19 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
dhelms Offline
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What is the time line here? When you say use it as soon as possible, are we talking weeks?,months?

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#11896788 - 10/24/16 10:05 AM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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Some good info here on fuels. Most all racing fuel has some ethanol in it as an oxygenator.
The best bet on fuel storage is to have the tank completely full so there is no air left in the tank. Air contains moisture/water and eventually the moisture will transfer into the ethanol and then later separate. Racing fuels in an unopened drum can be stored for months without going bad.
Pure gas makes more power in most engines except those that are set up for racing. Racing engines that use alcohol fuels have much more timing advance and use a lot richer fuel mixture.
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#11897598 - 10/24/16 05:26 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
dhelms Offline
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Does the fuel filter act as a water separator or do you need a "job specific " separator for that?

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#12028292 - 01/08/17 05:46 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: dhelms]
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#12030704 - 01/09/17 08:07 PM Re: Fuel additive to fight ethanol? [Re: 44 Diesel]
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