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#11861676 - 10/03/16 08:51 AM skeeter trailer brake problems help!
Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) Offline
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Registered: 10/31/10
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Loc: Tyler, Tx/Arlington, Tx
Surge brakes are locking up when braking. No issues with them while driving down road in reverse or drive, put second you hit the breaks it starts to lock them up and grind bad. I either have to figure out issue before thursday or disconnect them. Have to drive to Monroe end of this week... Any ideas TFF? its a 2012 EZ loader trailer has surge brakes on the rear wheels.

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#11861817 - 10/03/16 09:58 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
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I'd buy a new actuator assembly and bleed them.I went through this and replaced everything but think the actuator was the culprit

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#11861832 - 10/03/16 10:06 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
bronco71 Offline
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Sounds like the brake shoes/pads may be worn down to the metal...

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#11861839 - 10/03/16 10:07 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) Offline
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looks like i'm going to use one of those lock out keys to keep the actuator pin from sliding forward to engage brakes. Not going to have any time to have a legit fix this week.

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#11861854 - 10/03/16 10:16 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: bronco71]
Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) Offline
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Originally Posted By: bronco71
Sounds like the brake shoes/pads may be worn down to the metal...

Nope replaced them before last tournament season. These pads are good they stopped my truck dead in its tracks last night when they locked up.

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#11861866 - 10/03/16 10:23 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
bronco71 Offline
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Does it clunk when you start off? There is a shock absorber in the hitch that may be worn out causing it to go to full braking too soon.

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#11861890 - 10/03/16 10:32 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: bronco71]
Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) Offline
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Originally Posted By: bronco71
Does it clunk when you start off? There is a shock absorber in the hitch that may be worn out causing it to go to full braking too soon.

maybe Im going to get it out to where I can drive it around and test some stuff later today.

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#11861926 - 10/03/16 10:49 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
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I tried the lockout key and mine still locked up.atleast pull the calipers off

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#11861938 - 10/03/16 10:55 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
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make sure the lock out solenoid is getting power and engaging when put it reverse. check the ground wire for sol. and then check it is getting power

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#11861944 - 10/03/16 10:59 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: RANGER SKI]
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Originally Posted By: RANGER SKI
make sure the lock out solenoid is getting power and engaging when put it reverse. check the ground wire for sol. and then check it is getting power


I'd bet you all I have in my pocket that your problem has to do with grounding and the solenoid. I would get a tester and be sure you are sending power to the solenoid. It is the middle pin "receptacle" if you have the round connector on your tow vehicle. All the others are pins are around the circle. The middle "pin receiver" is the power to the solenoid. On some trucks, you can blow a fuse and not get power to that portion of the the plug.


Edited by squib (10/03/16 10:59 AM)

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#11861966 - 10/03/16 11:12 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
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Originally Posted By: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
Originally Posted By: bronco71
Does it clunk when you start off? There is a shock absorber in the hitch that may be worn out causing it to go to full braking too soon.

maybe Im going to get it out to where I can drive it around and test some stuff later today.


If it is the shock it is a pretty easy fix, don't have to get into the hydraulic system.....not sure where to find one locally but trailer shops should have them. Pretty sure Mcgills in Lewisville would have it.

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#11861987 - 10/03/16 11:23 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: bronco71]
Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) Offline
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Originally Posted By: bronco71
Originally Posted By: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
Originally Posted By: bronco71
Does it clunk when you start off? There is a shock absorber in the hitch that may be worn out causing it to go to full braking too soon.

maybe Im going to get it out to where I can drive it around and test some stuff later today.


If it is the shock it is a pretty easy fix, don't have to get into the hydraulic system.....not sure where to find one locally but trailer shops should have them. Pretty sure Mcgills in Lewisville would have it.

How specifically would i tell if its the shock? When I get home later I will be looking at it.

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#11861998 - 10/03/16 11:27 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: squib]
Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) Offline
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Registered: 10/31/10
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Loc: Tyler, Tx/Arlington, Tx
Originally Posted By: squib
Originally Posted By: RANGER SKI
make sure the lock out solenoid is getting power and engaging when put it reverse. check the ground wire for sol. and then check it is getting power


I'd bet you all I have in my pocket that your problem has to do with grounding and the solenoid. I would get a tester and be sure you are sending power to the solenoid. It is the middle pin "receptacle" if you have the round connector on your tow vehicle. All the others are pins are around the circle. The middle "pin receiver" is the power to the solenoid. On some trucks, you can blow a fuse and not get power to that portion of the the plug.

If it wasnt engaging them wouldnt my trailer brakes lock up in reverse I fixed this issue once by replacing a fuse on my truck. I have zero issue going forward or backward only issue is when i press on the brakes


Edited by Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) (10/03/16 11:27 AM)

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#11862024 - 10/03/16 11:38 AM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
bronco71 Offline
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Loc: Farmers Branch/Sulphur Bluff
Originally Posted By: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
Originally Posted By: bronco71
Originally Posted By: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
Originally Posted By: bronco71
Does it clunk when you start off? There is a shock absorber in the hitch that may be worn out causing it to go to full braking too soon.

maybe Im going to get it out to where I can drive it around and test some stuff later today.


If it is the shock it is a pretty easy fix, don't have to get into the hydraulic system.....not sure where to find one locally but trailer shops should have them. Pretty sure Mcgills in Lewisville would have it.

How specifically would i tell if its the shock? When I get home later I will be looking at it.


When mine went bad the trailer would jerk went pulling from a stop and clunk forward fast locking the brakes when slowing/stopping. When not hooked to tow vehicle it was very easy to push the hitch in engaging the brakes. You could pull the shock off and see if it has any resistance like it should or if it collapses easily.

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#11862103 - 10/03/16 12:13 PM Re: skeeter trailer brake problems help! [Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
HARD WORKN HAROLD Offline
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Loc: Williams Creek, Lake Fork
Don't press bolt on the brakes!
Originally Posted By: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
Originally Posted By: squib
Originally Posted By: RANGER SKI
make sure the lock out solenoid is getting power and engaging when put it reverse. check the ground wire for sol. and then check it is getting power


I'd bet you all I have in my pocket that your problem has to do with grounding and the solenoid. I would get a tester and be sure you are sending power to the solenoid. It is the middle pin "receptacle" if you have the round connector on your tow vehicle. All the others are pins are around the circle. The middle "pin receiver" is the power to the solenoid. On some trucks, you can blow a fuse and not get power to that portion of the the plug.

If it wasnt engaging them wouldnt my trailer brakes lock up in reverse I fixed this issue once by replacing a fuse on my truck. I have zero issue going forward or backward only issue is when i press on the brakes
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