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#11859279 - 10/01/16 06:41 PM Co angler question
tpvegas2213 Offline
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Registered: 11/28/15
Posts: 88
I am planning on fishing as a co angler next year and was wondering what kind of tackle storage do you guys use and do you take a cooler with food and drinks or try to fit that in the bag any advice is greatly appreciated

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#11859306 - 10/01/16 07:01 PM Re: Co angler question [Re: tpvegas2213]
Brent S Online   content
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Registered: 07/04/13
Posts: 2428
Loc: Eagle Mountain Lake
Any of the medium tackle backs are plenty big. Ask your boater if you could put what you need in their ice chest.

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#11859307 - 10/01/16 07:02 PM Re: Co angler question [Re: tpvegas2213]
200ZX Online   mad
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Registered: 12/22/09
Posts: 359
Loc: SE Texas
From my previous questions also I get that try to keep it to a minimum. You should be able to use the cooler in the boat because the more I ask the boaters say heck yea. You can always ask the night before at the meeting or when you are contacted by them.

As far as tackle I am going to keep mine to my one bag that has a shoulder strap and has 3-4 boxes for hooks, weights and hard baits and such. It will also hold lots of plastics in their original bag. Others have said a good backpack or just a duffel bag works great. If you have one just try organizing your fishing gear into and see what it looks like.

Make sure you have your own life jacket, cull rings if you want them, rain gear, and a spare reel or two. Just in case you backlash the hell out of it or one breaks you will have a spare.
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#11860032 - 10/02/16 10:46 AM Re: Co angler question [Re: tpvegas2213]
Thad Rains Online   content
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Registered: 10/09/01
Posts: 2373
Loc: Lubbock, Texas.
Good advice above. Keeping it to a minimum is the key. I nromally fish with 3 or 4 rods wheN I go as co. Up to you, but I try to combine combos. T-rig, C-rig, jig or swim jig rod as one, topwater as another, CB as another and spinnerbait as one, or even a drop shot/shakey head rod, depending on location (lake) you are fishing. Works out pretty well, but you need to talk to your boater the night before and ask what kind of fishing you are going to be doing. If he says JIGS, then you might take 2 jig rods, instead of one. If he says all kinds of fishing, then you should be good to go with 3 or 4 rods I mentioned. If he says topwater, the 4 I mentioned can be done as 2 topwater baits (CB rod). So, it just depends on what your boater is going to be on. Just ask and they should tell you the night before. IF NOT, then tell him/her that you have 8 rods and just wanted to get the most important ones to go with him/her. Hope this helps. Tight lines, keep safe and good luck.

Thad Rains
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#11860087 - 10/02/16 11:23 AM Re: Co angler question [Re: tpvegas2213]
coachmas Online   content
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Registered: 02/24/04
Posts: 2321
Loc: Back at Palestine
All good advice. I've been fishing as a co-angler for many years, even as a boat owner. Here are a few things I always tell guys that are new to it.

1. Talk to your boater the night before at the meeting. That will give you the best indication on what to expect and what to bring. I always ask about cooler and if I can bring ice or drinks for the boater. Most of the time they say just bring what I want to drink or put in there.

2. Bring your own life jacket if possible.

3. After your conversation with boater, you should have a good idea on what you are going to be doing the next day. Be as efficient as possible with rod selection and tackle. I use a medium bag, 3-4 boxes depending on what we are doing. I combine my hard baits when I'm a co-angler that I would usually have in 2-3 boxes in my own boat. I personally don't like soft plastic binders, so I have gallon ziplock bags and I place similar baits together in them and keep in my tackle bag.

4. Lately, I have been taking an extra reel with braid and one with flouro. Only switched out once but it was easier than re-spooling. I try to take as few rods as possible but I'm usually 4-5 rods and this is something that can be worked out the night before. Main thing is stay organized in the boat and keep you stuff out of the way! Sometimes you might even get a back compartment.

5. Have a conversation about backing the boat/trailer, netting fish, smoking in the boat, dipping, etc before launch. If you can't back a boat and trailer, be honest!!!

6. DO NOT step in the seats!!!

7. Be extremely careful with dye, if I don't have a dye pen, I always sit down and lean over the edge of the boat. I can't imagine getting colored dye on another persons $$$$ boat.

8. Don't cast in the boaters area. I pretty much treat it like ultimate match fishing. I don't cast in front of the console unless fishing really fast and then I'm on the line. Or if the boater says cast up here. That HS happened many times in windy situations.

9. Personally I am always respectful to the boater regardless of age ( I'm 40) I figure im gonna be nice, treat their stuff better than my own, maybe it will wrk to my advantage later in the day.
Example: I needed one more fish to get my limit on day two of a championship a few years ago, after day 1 I was in 5th place, and was in 3rd for AOY. Fishing was tough on every one in July. With 1 hour to go, my boater asked if I wanted to stay and hope for a big bite or go fish another spot where he knew we could catch some little fish and maybe a couple keepers. He only had 2 fish and was not in contention. We went to that deep spot and I ended up getting my limit fish with 15 min to go. That 2lb fish won me the tourney and AOY!!!

Those are a few things off the top of my head while I'm sitting here between baseball games with my youngest son. I'm no expert, but don't mind sharing experience as co-angler. Good luck, coach
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#11860101 - 10/02/16 11:31 AM Re: Co angler question [Re: tpvegas2213]
John P085 Offline
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Registered: 07/19/12
Posts: 232
Loc: La Grange,TX
All the above are good tips. When I fish as a co-angler, I always tell my boater to give me a 2-3 cast notice before he's ready to make a move. That way i can reel up, put on my life jacket and be ready to go. I don't want him to have to wait on me.

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#11860104 - 10/02/16 11:32 AM Re: Co angler question [Re: tpvegas2213]
M. Alexander Offline
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Registered: 08/03/13
Posts: 545
Loc: Rowlett, TX
I'll echo the sentiments of the above posters about keeping it to a minimum. I bring one smaller box for a variety of hardbaits, skirted baits, & terminal tackle. That, and all my plastics in their original packaging, food & drink, and misc. gear (pliers, scissors, sunscreen, bug spray, band aids, extra line, etc.) fits into a backpack style tackle bag.

The BASS Opens are min. 2-days so I usually bring 5-6 rods on the first day unless we have the fish dialed in. On the 2nd I try to keep it 4 or less. As a co you have to maximize your opportunities. Trying to grab a rod out a tangle of 5-6 for a quick cast to specific spot while trolling is challenging. You'll waste precious time digging through a bunch of gear. Of course you have the fish the moment and conditions, but tie your confidence bait on and keep it in the water and put into as many places as possible. As a broad suggestion, down size your offerings (baits & weights if possible) and lean on your plastics.

Last thing, if you don't already consider yourself an above average caster and pitcher/flipper, PRACTICE! You're not going to get good angles so you have to be able to make a perfect, soft presentation from any position. After my first Open last year, I realized if I didn't get good with a back-handed roll cast I would miss A LOT of water.

Have fun and best of luck to you!
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#11860115 - 10/02/16 11:38 AM Re: Co angler question [Re: tpvegas2213]
Brent S Online   content
Extreme Angler

Registered: 07/04/13
Posts: 2428
Loc: Eagle Mountain Lake
What Mark said. If your going down a bank you will typically be rammed against the trees and shoreline while the boater parallels from the front. Casting is the most important thing.

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#11860117 - 10/02/16 11:38 AM Re: Co angler question [Re: coachmas]
GIG'EM AGGIES Online   content
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Registered: 05/14/14
Posts: 775
Loc: texas
Originally Posted By: coachmas
All good advice. I've been fishing as a co-angler for many years, even as a boat owner. Here are a few things I always tell guys that are new to it.

1. Talk to your boater the night before at the meeting. That will give you the best indication on what to expect and what to bring. I always ask about cooler and if I can bring ice or drinks for the boater. Most of the time they say just bring what I want to drink or put in there.

2. Bring your own life jacket if possible.

3. After your conversation with boater, you should have a good idea on what you are going to be doing the next day. Be as efficient as possible with rod selection and tackle. I use a medium bag, 3-4 boxes depending on what we are doing. I combine my hard baits when I'm a co-angler that I would usually have in 2-3 boxes in my own boat. I personally don't like soft plastic binders, so I have gallon ziplock bags and I place similar baits together in them and keep in my tackle bag.

4. Lately, I have been taking an extra reel with braid and one with flouro. Only switched out once but it was easier than re-spooling. I try to take as few rods as possible but I'm usually 4-5 rods and this is something that can be worked out the night before. Main thing is stay organized in the boat and keep you stuff out of the way! Sometimes you might even get a back compartment.

5. Have a conversation about backing the boat/trailer, netting fish, smoking in the boat, dipping, etc before launch. If you can't back a boat and trailer, be honest!!!

6. DO NOT step in the seats!!!

7. Be extremely careful with dye, if I don't have a dye pen, I always sit down and lean over the edge of the boat. I can't imagine getting colored dye on another persons $$$$ boat.

8. Don't cast in the boaters area. I pretty much treat it like ultimate match fishing. I don't cast in front of the console unless fishing really fast and then I'm on the line. Or if the boater says cast up here. That HS happened many times in windy situations.

9. Personally I am always respectful to the boater regardless of age ( I'm 40) I figure im gonna be nice, treat their stuff better than my own, maybe it will wrk to my advantage later in the day.
Example: I needed one more fish to get my limit on day two of a championship a few years ago, after day 1 I was in 5th place, and was in 3rd for AOY. Fishing was tough on every one in July. With 1 hour to go, my boater asked if I wanted to stay and hope for a big bite or go fish another spot where he knew we could catch some little fish and maybe a couple keepers. He only had 2 fish and was not in contention. We went to that deep spot and I ended up getting my limit fish with 15 min to go. That 2lb fish won me the tourney and AOY!!!

Those are a few things off the top of my head while I'm sitting here between baseball games with my youngest son. I'm no expert, but don't mind sharing experience as co-angler. Good luck, coach

Having been a co-angler myself for several years fishing Operation Bass Redman you won't get better advice than this from coachmas. Take it and run with it. Most important of all, if you CAN'T back the man's boat/trailer be honest and tell him so, it's no embarrassment until you try it and either jack knife the trailer or worse hit another trailer. Some of my best memories fishing was as a co-angler, hope they will be yours too.
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#11860124 - 10/02/16 11:41 AM Re: Co angler question [Re: tpvegas2213]
John P085 Offline
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Registered: 07/19/12
Posts: 232
Loc: La Grange,TX
And be prepared to break off!

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#11860131 - 10/02/16 11:47 AM Re: Co angler question [Re: tpvegas2213]
dandeeks Online   content
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Registered: 04/06/14
Posts: 291
I like a small tackle bag. I have tried all sizes, but the reality is you don't need/and can't bring every option in the world with you when you are co-angling. I make my decisions by bringing all the different style lures I can, but limited colors (the ones that work the most). If there is something specific working that day, and you don't have it... odds are your boater will have that and if he really wants to win he will be glad to lend you a spare for the victory.

I have tried many bags, gone big, medium to small... and now absolutely love this bag:
www.academy.com/shop/pdp/h2o-xpress-deluxe-soft-tackle-bag#repChildCatid=312352

This bag has plenty of compartments, the quality is surprisingly good being the H20 Academy brand, and with 5 360 boxes you can fit tons of stuff in there. I also added to small plano containers for my terminal tackle and they still fit inside with the other boxes. You are then left with all the side/front pockets to fill with other stuff.

I also like to compliment it with an add-on, which is an additional bag binder for soft baits that clips onto the bag. I think this is it, but I am not 100%:

[url=www.academy.com/shop/pdp/h2o-xpress-rigging-binder#repChildCatid=517758]www.academy.com/shop/pdp/h2o-xpress-rigging-binder#repChildCatid=517758[/url]

Trust me, a setup like this is your best bet. You can pack just about anything short of an a-rig, It will be compact and out of the way and every boater will appreciate it.


as for food and drinks... I have a small mini cooler, but as mentioned above... every boater is different. Talk to them beforehand, most will have plenty of room in boat cooler.

hope this helps, I've spent quite some time and money figuring this out. I find this setup is so perfefct that when someone stole my whole setup off the back of a friends boat, I went right back to Academy and bought another one.

cheers

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#11861336 - 10/02/16 11:42 PM Re: Co angler question [Re: tpvegas2213]
toofy Offline
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Registered: 12/26/15
Posts: 242
Loc: Fort Worth
Great info. I thought co-anglers fished together as a team but this makes it sound like they are competing with each other? If competing, what is the purpose of having someone else in your boat? I'm not a tournament guy and maybe I am reading this wrong.

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#11861344 - 10/03/16 12:16 AM Re: Co angler question [Re: toofy]
KutTail71 Online   content
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Registered: 06/02/13
Posts: 70
Loc: Pasadena, Tx
Depends on the format. If it's a team event sure but in others sure they can work together but ultimately it's what the boater wants to do. I used to fish with a friend before I had a bigger boat. We were in different clubs but we would work together but we were still fishing against each other.

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#11861345 - 10/03/16 12:20 AM Re: Co angler question [Re: tpvegas2213]
Brent S Online   content
Extreme Angler

Registered: 07/04/13
Posts: 2428
Loc: Eagle Mountain Lake
The bigger tournaments pros fish against other pros and co anglers fish against other co anglers.

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#11861802 - 10/03/16 09:52 AM Re: Co angler question [Re: toofy]
M. Alexander Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 08/03/13
Posts: 545
Loc: Rowlett, TX
Originally Posted By: toofy
Great info. I thought co-anglers fished together as a team but this makes it sound like they are competing with each other? If competing, what is the purpose of having someone else in your boat? I'm not a tournament guy and maybe I am reading this wrong.


Two different formats --

in a "team" tournament you fish as partners. Entry fees are paid as a team.
in "pro-am" or "boater/co-angler" tournament, the pro/boaters are fishing against other pro/boaters while co-s fish against other co-s. Entry fees are separate and are higher for the boater/pro. He calls the shots. You are not partners.
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