think of fall as the second spring, they tend to go shallow to feed, shad spawn in spring and fall often, start shallow and work deeper. you will catch some whoppers, but not usually a bunch off one pile, stick and move. when you start seeing all small fish on the piles, thats abt it, they are the last to leave the piles in fall and first to return in spring. . Then you want to start looking near the mouth of major creek channels and rivers that lead to spawning areas, and deep water winter haunts. they will be following the shad around and can move ALOT in short periods. sometimes they will empty out of the creeks and go all the way back into the mouth in the main lake, then a few days later, they go back down the creek, follow the baitfish. every lake is different but locating baitfish is key. diving birds can be very helpful.
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