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Boat trailer help. #11782680 08/17/16 09:41 PM
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Whatever is in the picture has locked up and is making that tire difficult to move. Generating alot of heat and burning rubber smell. Is this a surge brake or something else? Safe to drive to get repaired? Thanks in advance. If it makes any difference it's the passenger rear tire.
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Re: Boat trailer help. [Re: Chris_K] #11782690 08/17/16 09:50 PM
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Tandem trailer? If it is only that one wheel, remove it and drive carefully on 3 tires to get repaired.

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Originally Posted By: Bobby Milam
Tandem trailer? If it is only that one wheel, remove it and drive carefully on 3 tires to get repaired.

Yes it's a tandem. Out of curiosity, what is that

Re: Boat trailer help. [Re: Chris_K] #11782729 08/17/16 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chris_K
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Tandem trailer? If it is only that one wheel, remove it and drive carefully on 3 tires to get repaired.

Yes it's a tandem. Out of curiosity, what is that


Never mind I see "that" now smile

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Re: Boat trailer help. [Re: Chris_K] #11782730 08/17/16 10:13 PM
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Pictured is a brake line going to a wheel cylinder for drum brakes on the trailer. As said, you can drive careful on 3 wheels to get it repaired.

Re: Boat trailer help. [Re: Alex K.] #11782756 08/17/16 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Alex K.
Pictured is a brake line going to a wheel cylinder for drum brakes on the trailer. As said, you can drive careful on 3 wheels to get it repaired.


So the wheel cylinder looks like it may be bent. The cylinder is getting so hot it's smoking. The brakes didn't woek anyways... Is this an expensive repair??

Re: Boat trailer help. [Re: Chris_K] #11782907 08/17/16 11:46 PM
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The worst case may be just new brakes and maybe the internals as well. You could easily do the whole thing yourself for less than 100 maybe even less with no special tools needed. That said.... if one goes bad then the others may be suspect to go bad as well. Do you know when was the last time they were inspected/serviced? You may want to just repair/replace all 4. Piece of mind is worth more than the 5-600 you may spend to replace all new. While you are digging in there you may as well replace the wheel bearings as well. You will be knee deep in it so just knock it out. A full afternoon of wrenching will be good for the trailer. Google or Youtube university has lots of videos to walk you through... Just don't cheap yourself out of fixing it right.

Re: Boat trailer help. [Re: Chris_K] #11782911 08/17/16 11:49 PM
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http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Brakes/e...CFQuRaQoddtkDNg

this was the 1st link i grabbed on google. There may be cheaper and or better. you may find something locally in your town.... best of luck.

Re: Boat trailer help. [Re: Chris_K] #11783562 08/18/16 07:16 AM
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No offense intended, but Chris isn't giving vibes of being brakes-knowledgeable given what he's asking about. Asking is smart, for sure. But, not all fishermen are cut out to be DIY mechanics. Some who have no real vehicle/mechanical repair skills may be better off seeking professional assistance.

Almost all boat trailers are "surge-break" mechanisms, whether the braking components are drum or disc. The other choice is electrically activated brakes, and that doesn't go well with trailers that are routinely submerged.

The vast majority of late-model boat trailers now have disc brakes. The drum brakes on this rig may indicate a good bit of age, and Chris may not know much about them, indicating a possible lack of service/maintenance while in his possession. Many times such a scenario results in the need for a full hub rebuild, including the brake components. This really isn't terribly expensive, but it could make sense to abandon the drum brakes in favor of a disc brake upgrade. Put the drum/hub rebuild $$$ toward a superior disc brake upgrade. My personal opinion is that drum brakes are near-useless and will soon fail while disc brakes are one of the most efficient safety investments an owner can make.

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Originally Posted By: Flippin-Out
No offense intended, but Chris isn't giving vibes of being brakes-knowledgeable given what he's asking about. Asking is smart, for sure. But, not all fishermen are cut out to be DIY mechanics. Some who have no real vehicle/mechanical repair skills may be better off seeking professional assistance.

Almost all boat trailers are "surge-break" mechanisms, whether the braking components are drum or disc. The other choice is electrically activated brakes, and that doesn't go well with trailers that are routinely submerged.

The vast majority of late-model boat trailers now have disc brakes. The drum brakes on this rig may indicate a good bit of age, and Chris may not know much about them, indicating a possible lack of service/maintenance while in his possession. Many times such a scenario results in the need for a full hub rebuild, including the brake components. This really isn't terribly expensive, but it could make sense to abandon the drum brakes in favor of a disc brake upgrade. Put the drum/hub rebuild $$$ toward a superior disc brake upgrade. My personal opinion is that drum brakes are near-useless and will soon fail while disc brakes are one of the most efficient safety investments an owner can make.



Im certainly not a mechanic lol. It is an older trailer 1996 basscat trailer. The brakes weren't even operational and were disconnected. I'm not even sure what caused it to "catch". I'm hauling it to a shop this morning

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Glad you're getting them fixed! Let us know what happened to them causing the lock up.

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Not the brakes at all. Back bearing broke

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Originally Posted By: Flippin-Out
No offense intended, but Chris isn't giving vibes of being brakes-knowledgeable given what he's asking about. Asking is smart, for sure. But, not all fishermen are cut out to be DIY mechanics. Some who have no real vehicle/mechanical repair skills may be better off seeking professional assistance.


This describes me and I admit it. My worst fear is tearing something apart and either not knowing the correct way to fix it or how to put it back together. That's why I have always just taken my boat to the shop for repairs beyond changing plugs or replacing a bilge pump.

The only thing I know how to do with a boat is launch it, run it, and fish...and the last of those three may be debatable from time to time.

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Originally Posted By: Flippin-Out
No offense intended, but Chris isn't giving vibes of being brakes-knowledgeable given what he's asking about. Asking is smart, for sure. But, not all fishermen are cut out to be DIY mechanics. Some who have no real vehicle/mechanical repair skills may be better off seeking professional assistance.


This describes me and I admit it. My worst fear is tearing something apart and either not knowing the correct way to fix it or how to put it back together. That's why I have always just taken my boat to the shop for repairs beyond changing plugs or replacing a bilge pump.

The only thing I know how to do with a boat is launch it, run it, and fish...and the last of those three may be debatable from time to time.


I couldn't have described myself any better. I bought some spark plugs for my efi because that should be easy right? Well now they are on my shelf because I'm not confident I gapped them properly bang

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Yep pull the wheel and limp it to a trailer shop or your favorite mechanic on 3 wheels.

I agree with TexasdeepV about doing it all. Sounds like you are not comfy with your own abilities. Any trailer shop or mechanic should be able to handle this repair. You don't have to take it to a boat shop where chances are you will pay more. I'd go for fixing all brakes and new bearings and seals for sure. Or disable all brakes and still go with all new bearings and seals. surge brakes sure are nice when they are working correctly


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