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#11772245 - 08/11/16 07:16 PM Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products
Neal G Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 11/06/09
Posts: 598
Loc: Texas
Which are the most (and least) credible anglers with regard to promoting their sponsor's products.

Some pros do an exceptionally good and honest job promoting products but may have not been included in the poll. Please post their name if you would like to give them proper credit.
Most credible (honest) angler with regard to promoting his sponsor's products
Only one choice allowed (153 total votes)
Edwin Evers - 20 (13%)
Shaw Grigsby - 7 (5%)
Greg Hackney - 41 (27%)
Mike Iaconelli - 7 (5%)
Aaron Martens - 15 (10%)
Gerald Swindle - 15 (10%)
Kevin VanDam - 48 (31%)
Voting on this poll ends: 08/15/16 07:06 PM
Least credible (honest) angler with regard to promoting his sponsor's products
Only one choice allowed


Votes accepted starting: 08/11/16 07:09 PM
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll.
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#11772316 - 08/11/16 07:41 PM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Neal G]
Mudman63 Online   content
Pro Angler

Registered: 10/27/12
Posts: 917
Loc: Spring & New Braunfels, Texas
Does anyone think KVD really uses the fish stick on his baits as advertised?

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#11772322 - 08/11/16 07:45 PM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Neal G]
KVS Offline
TFF Team Angler

Registered: 06/22/08
Posts: 3302
Loc: Burleson, Tx
I can't stand to watch Shaw anymore with his non-stop plugging. mad

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#11772378 - 08/11/16 08:04 PM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Neal G]
Alex Finch Online   content
Extreme Angler

Registered: 01/22/13
Posts: 1001
Loc: Fate, Texas
This post made me think back to the Chesapeake Bay tournament last year. The eventual winner used a competitor's product to win the event. I have a tremendous amount of respect for the angler, but I'd be disappointed if I was paying a guy and giving him all the baits he needs and then he had to use a competing product to win on the big stage. In all fairness, he is always transparent about which bait he uses which is more than can be said for some anglers.

I think Tharp should have been added to the list. He's the one that brought this topic to light in a Bassmaster column.
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#11772451 - 08/11/16 08:34 PM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: KVS]
Chris_K Online   content
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Registered: 01/14/15
Posts: 762
Loc: TX
Originally Posted By: KVS
I can't stand to watch Shaw anymore with his non-stop plugging. mad

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#11772532 - 08/11/16 09:21 PM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Neal G]
SAKS Offline
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Registered: 07/23/14
Posts: 615
They all do a good job of plugging but I agree with the others here about Grigsby. His shows are nothing but one bad segway for a plug after another. It's seems so bad that it reminds me of bad B movie acting.

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#11772551 - 08/11/16 09:26 PM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Alex Finch]
Txduckhunter Offline
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Registered: 02/19/02
Posts: 1322
Loc: Lake Fork
Originally Posted By: Alex Finch
This post made me think back to the Chesapeake Bay tournament last year. The eventual winner used a competitor's product to win the event. I have a tremendous amount of respect for the angler, but I'd be disappointed if I was paying a guy and giving him all the baits he needs and then he had to use a competing product to win on the big stage. In all fairness, he is always transparent about which bait he uses which is more than can be said for some anglers.

I think Tharp should have been added to the list. He's the one that brought this topic to light in a Bassmaster column.


The name of the game is to win. Ideally, it would be on the bait that your backers provide but sometimes that's just not in the cards.
A long time ago, I was approached by a soft plastic maker who wanted to sponsor me. He showed up at the house with 2 boxes. One was full of his product and the other was empty. When I asked what the empty box was for, he told me that in order for us to do this deal- he was going to use the empty box to carry all my "other" baits off in... needless to say, he left with both of his boxes.

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#11772707 - 08/11/16 11:00 PM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Txduckhunter]
Alex Finch Online   content
Extreme Angler

Registered: 01/22/13
Posts: 1001
Loc: Fate, Texas
Originally Posted By: Txduckhunter
Originally Posted By: Alex Finch
This post made me think back to the Chesapeake Bay tournament last year. The eventual winner used a competitor's product to win the event. I have a tremendous amount of respect for the angler, but I'd be disappointed if I was paying a guy and giving him all the baits he needs and then he had to use a competing product to win on the big stage. In all fairness, he is always transparent about which bait he uses which is more than can be said for some anglers.

I think Tharp should have been added to the list. He's the one that brought this topic to light in a Bassmaster column.


The name of the game is to win. Ideally, it would be on the bait that your backers provide but sometimes that's just not in the cards.
A long time ago, I was approached by a soft plastic maker who wanted to sponsor me. He showed up at the house with 2 boxes. One was full of his product and the other was empty. When I asked what the empty box was for, he told me that in order for us to do this deal- he was going to use the empty box to carry all my "other" baits off in... needless to say, he left with both of his boxes.



Very good story; I think you did what was right in that situation. I know there must be a ton of pressure to perform at the Elite level and when it's a job then you have to do what you can, within the rules of the game, to win. I made a post about that event last year, and probably shouldn't have stirred that pot again.

The things Tharp said in his article hit home for me. Since we're talking about credibility, I think it really speaks to the topic.

Here's the article I was referencing: http://www.bassmaster.com/blog/tell-truth

"Early in my career, when I was less established and less financially secure, I was sponsored by companies that didn’t make the highest caliber products. I can admit it now, but at the time, it put me in a bit of a fix.

There are pros now who are in that same boat – they need whatever deals they can get just to survive, so they’ll push their ethics (for lack of a better word) to the side and promote stuff they don’t believe is the best out there."
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#11773000 - 08/12/16 08:08 AM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Neal G]
jhall239 Offline
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Registered: 10/02/15
Posts: 108
Loc: Hemphill,TX/Jonesboro,LA
Agree with most everyone else, Not that I dont like Shaw, he is great guy have met him a few times, but
All that silliness and he seems to manufacture ways to mention the sponsors more than others
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#11773218 - 08/12/16 10:01 AM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Neal G]
96speed Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 10/12/10
Posts: 917
Loc: Houston, TX (Jersey Village)
Shaw Grigsby and Alton Jones are tough for me to watch. They might be a sponsor's dream but they pimp their stuff so hard its tough for me to stomach. They just lay it on so thick that it seems sleazy.

I tried to watch Shaw's show on the outdoor channel but its one thing after another. "I sure am glad I have these great TRITON coolers to keep my GATORADE drink nice and cold."

"Whew! That big 'ol pig just inhaled my Strike King Rage Bug! I'm glad I got to this spot in hurry with my MERCURY ENGINE bolted to my ATLAS jackplate on the back of my TRITON hull!"

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#11773376 - 08/12/16 11:34 AM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Neal G]
Allen Bass Fisher Online   content
Extreme Angler

Registered: 08/05/04
Posts: 1553
Loc: Allen, TX
Should add Timmy Horton to the list of least credible. All he does on his show is plug his product line. I think they are all in it for the money/sponsors. They have to be. I have a hard time picking a credible one.

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#11773442 - 08/12/16 12:01 PM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Neal G]
1crawdad Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 02/20/16
Posts: 13
Here's a hilarious YouTube mocking Roland about "over-selling":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tkSRrj2Mtw

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#11773567 - 08/12/16 01:15 PM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Txduckhunter]
happycampr Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 04/01/12
Posts: 83
Originally Posted By: Txduckhunter
Originally Posted By: Alex Finch
This post made me think back to the Chesapeake Bay tournament last year. The eventual winner used a competitor's product to win the event. I have a tremendous amount of respect for the angler, but I'd be disappointed if I was paying a guy and giving him all the baits he needs and then he had to use a competing product to win on the big stage. In all fairness, he is always transparent about which bait he uses which is more than can be said for some anglers.

I think Tharp should have been added to the list. He's the one that brought this topic to light in a Bassmaster column.


The name of the game is to win. Ideally, it would be on the bait that your backers provide but sometimes that's just not in the cards.
A long time ago, I was approached by a soft plastic maker who wanted to sponsor me. He showed up at the house with 2 boxes. One was full of his product and the other was empty. When I asked what the empty box was for, he told me that in order for us to do this deal- he was going to use the empty box to carry all my "other" baits off in... needless to say, he left with both of his boxes.


Absolutely, and the two-box method seems to me would hurt both the pro angler and the sponsor in the grand scheme. I would bet 90% of your target audience gets sold on what is plastered on the side of your boat, your fishing jersey and your tow vehicle when you win tourneys versus the 10 or so percent that can actually recall or bother to research what you won this or that tournament with. It's all about the Benjamins when you get down to it

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#11773571 - 08/12/16 01:17 PM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Neal G]
Chris G Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 11/16/08
Posts: 1648
Loc: Frisco, TX
The #1 on that I just can't stand to watch anymore is Scott Martin. I still watch the damn show simply because he fished some awesome lakes and normally catches some great fish, but the entire 30 minute show is nothing but constant plugs. I know they only have to show to generate money from sponsors so I understand it, but man its over the top.
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#11773707 - 08/12/16 02:51 PM Re: Most and Least Credible Anglers - Promoting Sponsor Products [Re: Neal G]
Big1Bass Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 04/14/04
Posts: 607
Loc: Dallas
My Least Credible wasn't on the list.. It would be Byron Velvick..

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