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#11755860 - 08/02/16 08:56 PM Toledo Bend Hydrilla
blueduck Offline
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Just wondering what happened to all the hydrilla? We've been from the Penelton Bridge to the dam and have not found any hydrilla patches. So where's the hydrilla?

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#11755900 - 08/02/16 09:16 PM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
Jaret Latta Offline
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In the gulf by now...

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#11755920 - 08/02/16 09:32 PM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
basscfo Offline
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2 years of unusually high water, and who knows what else,like a lot of herbicide intended for giant salvinia, and the hydrilla is mostly gone.

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#11755962 - 08/02/16 09:49 PM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
Jaret Latta Offline
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Mostly high water....same on Rayburn. It will be back.

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#11756355 - 08/03/16 08:37 AM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
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Originally Posted By: blueduck
Just wondering what happened to all the hydrilla? We've been from the Penelton Bridge to the dam and have not found any hydrilla patches. So where's the hydrilla?
There is some in places just not like it was but it will come back.

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#11756366 - 08/03/16 08:39 AM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
Jigaholic Offline
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There's been so many cranks and traps slung around that lake this last year that all the hydrilla has been ripped out..... bolt grin

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#11756453 - 08/03/16 09:19 AM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
SoCal Tom Online   content
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It's there in the few places I was on the lake a couple weeks ago. There are patches around some of the islands not far from Fin and Feather.

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#11756527 - 08/03/16 09:58 AM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
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High dirty water late spring killed most of it.
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#11756537 - 08/03/16 10:05 AM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
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There is some in shallower water but I cant find it deep
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#11756790 - 08/03/16 01:00 PM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
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High water for a while kills it off. It is coming back nicely already but just not out in the deeper water yet.
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#11757487 - 08/03/16 07:36 PM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
Neal G Offline
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I am not looking to start an argument with anyone but I certainly think that something besides "high water" helped kill the grass. I have fish TB for 30+ years and have seen the good and bad grass years. I just think that there is more to it this year.

Additionally, the water level on TB does not get near as high or fluctuate as much as Rayburn, Amistad, etc. Nor does it get as muddy or stay muddy like other lakes that can keep some grass.
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#11757839 - 08/03/16 10:37 PM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
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High and dirty water basically for the last 2 years will do it and did.

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#11758113 - 08/04/16 08:15 AM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
Razorback Offline
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Here are graphs showing Toledo Bend's water level for the last year and over the last 45 years. Other than dropping really low in about 2012, when were the huge fluctuations in water level that would have killed the hydrilla? We spent several days down there in October of 2014 and the lake was full of grass from Palo Gaucho south to at least Six Mile. To my knowledge the lake level hasn't changed drastically since then.

I don't see anything in these charts that shows Toledo Bend fluctuating any more recently than is has over the last few decades. If the grass didn't die then, why now?

http://waterdatafortexas.org/reservoirs/individual/toledo-bend

Click on the "Historical" tab to see past years.

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#11758131 - 08/04/16 08:24 AM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
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So u see that really high mark in 2016? That was the beginning of the grass die off.
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#11758150 - 08/04/16 08:37 AM Re: Toledo Bend Hydrilla [Re: blueduck]
the skipper Offline
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Loc: nederland, TX
The water has been up and muddy for a while. Especially in the spring and that's when muddy water can kill grass really quick. Even at a steady water level if the sun can't get thru to the grass it's going to die pretty quick. That's a lot of why the grass hasn't been on Rayburn in a while also. Seems like every winter it gets really stained up or high here lately and kills the grass. I'm hoping for some steady levels for this winter and spring to see if it will come back good.

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