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#11752750 - 08/01/16 08:49 AM CRANKBAIT HELP!
golferflash Offline
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Registered: 03/18/16
Posts: 35
Loc: brownsbor, tx
Ok guys, I have started deep cranking a lot this year, and though I don't get a ton of bites, the ones I do are pretty solid. My problem is I am losing probably 30-40% of the fish I hook. I like to use the KVD "XD" series but maybe I should change the hooks out. Any hook suggestions? Or tips?

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#11752760 - 08/01/16 08:55 AM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: golferflash]
B. Dill Offline
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Registered: 07/16/13
Posts: 536
Loc: Cypress
What rod are you using?

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#11752761 - 08/01/16 08:56 AM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: golferflash]
golferflash Offline
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Registered: 03/18/16
Posts: 35
Loc: brownsbor, tx
7Ft Halo cranking rod

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#11752797 - 08/01/16 09:15 AM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: golferflash]
Jpurdue Offline
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Registered: 04/28/14
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Loc: NW Houston
The reality is you can do everything right and still lose a lot of fish on treble hooks as compared to a single hook. There are things you can do to improve your landing percentage, i.e. hooks, rod, landing strategy etc... If I land 75% of hooked fish on deep cranks I feel like I had a pretty good night. For single hook soft plastics the number is probably closer to 90%+. Fishing is like any other sport as well, things can get streaky. I've had days where I'm beside myself because my landing percentage is in the tank. The next day using the exact same setup I might bat 1000.


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#11752802 - 08/01/16 09:20 AM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: golferflash]
SoCal Tom Offline
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Let me be the first of 100 people on here to tell you to change the hooks to KVD Mustad short shank triple grips.

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#11752815 - 08/01/16 09:27 AM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: golferflash]
Connor S Offline
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Mustad Triple Grips.. Or any EWG treble, the further the hook point is is faced in the better the hooks hold. You can also add an extra split ring to the rear hook.

Let the king, KVD, tell you himself

http://www.bassmaster.com/gear/when-vandam-gets-treble

http://www.scout.com/outdoors/wired2fish/story/1670135-kvd-s-tournament-winning-cranking-system

http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Mustad_KV...tml?from=w2fish
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#11752858 - 08/01/16 09:50 AM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: SoCal Tom]
golferflash Offline
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Registered: 03/18/16
Posts: 35
Loc: brownsbor, tx
Originally Posted By: SoCal Tom
Let me be the first of 100 people on here to tell you to change the hooks to KVD Mustad short shank triple grips.


For 6xd what size are you using?
Also, how did you do at Palestine? I had a very tough day. 1 fish for 1.76lbs. I did hang a 5 lber on a 6xd with about 30 minutes to go and had it to the boat, trying to wear it out and it shook off. (I had to try to wear it out bc my boater didn't have a net!

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#11752881 - 08/01/16 10:03 AM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: golferflash]
SoCal Tom Offline
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Originally Posted By: golferflash
Originally Posted By: SoCal Tom
Let me be the first of 100 people on here to tell you to change the hooks to KVD Mustad short shank triple grips.


For 6xd what size are you using?
Also, how did you do at Palestine? I had a very tough day. 1 fish for 1.76lbs. I did hang a 5 lber on a 6xd with about 30 minutes to go and had it to the boat, trying to wear it out and it shook off. (I had to try to wear it out bc my boater didn't have a net!


Size 1 on a 6XD. We fished docks all day and the morning it was like the dead sea. Bite got better about 11 but too many little ones. I weighed 2 for 3.72 and my boater weighed 2 for 4.03. He had a big one wrap him around a dock piling and break off. Your boater not having a net when fishing deep cranks?? Ouch...

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#11752936 - 08/01/16 10:23 AM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: golferflash]
Mike Yeager Offline
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Use a rod specifically designed for a CB. It has to have a soft tip. Next put a split ring between the CB and the hook. Also use a short shank hook. You should see a huge increase in your catch rate. Good luck!
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#11753039 - 08/01/16 11:20 AM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: SoCal Tom]
golferflash Offline
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Registered: 03/18/16
Posts: 35
Loc: brownsbor, tx
Originally Posted By: SoCal Tom
Originally Posted By: golferflash
Originally Posted By: SoCal Tom
Let me be the first of 100 people on here to tell you to change the hooks to KVD Mustad short shank triple grips.


For 6xd what size are you using?
Also, how did you do at Palestine? I had a very tough day. 1 fish for 1.76lbs. I did hang a 5 lber on a 6xd with about 30 minutes to go and had it to the boat, trying to wear it out and it shook off. (I had to try to wear it out bc my boater didn't have a net!


Size 1 on a 6XD. We fished docks all day and the morning it was like the dead sea. Bite got better about 11 but too many little ones. I weighed 2 for 3.72 and my boater weighed 2 for 4.03. He had a big one wrap him around a dock piling and break off. Your boater not having a net when fishing deep cranks?? Ouch...


We fished docks mainly until the last hour. He asked me if I had any suggestions so I took him to a deep spot so I could Crank!!! That's when I finally caught a keeper and had that one good one get off. I caught a lot of fish under the docks, but all shorts.

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#11753040 - 08/01/16 11:20 AM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: Mike Yeager]
golferflash Offline
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Registered: 03/18/16
Posts: 35
Loc: brownsbor, tx
Originally Posted By: Mike Yeager
Use a rod specifically designed for a CB. It has to have a soft tip. Next put a split ring between the CB and the hook. Also use a short shank hook. You should see a huge increase in your catch rate. Good luck!

Any particular split ring you prefer?

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#11753566 - 08/01/16 03:59 PM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: golferflash]
Rudy Lackey Offline
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I allways use two split rings on my cranks.
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#11754174 - 08/01/16 09:01 PM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: golferflash]
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Registered: 10/09/01
Posts: 2333
Loc: Lubbock, Texas.
What I have done for YEARS and I have preached this on here before, is loosen my drag so a 3lb bass can pull a little drag. THIS keeps the fish buttoned and not rip the hooks out. A LOT of people have started doing this to keep from ripping all the hooks out. It keeps them buttoned and when you get a big fish that wants to run, LET IT. Once it tires out, if you want, you can increase the drag to get them in, just remember to set it back to a 3lb DRAG again, once you are done. Get a GREAT HOOK SET and then let the fish tow you where ever they want to go and let them pull drag, unless cover is in the way, but that is another situation that calls for other modifications. Hope this helps. Tight lines, keep safe and good luck.

Thad Rains
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#11754346 - 08/01/16 10:31 PM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: golferflash]
CrankBait1007 Offline
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Registered: 01/22/10
Posts: 1865
Loc: North carolina
Try Changing the rear hooks to the next size up . wink
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#11754420 - 08/02/16 01:31 AM Re: CRANKBAIT HELP! [Re: CrankBait1007]
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Originally Posted By: CrankBait1007
Try Changing the rear hooks to the next size up . wink



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