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Re: They tried to talk me out of an EcoDiesel, but it didn't work [Re: patriot07] #11800506 08/28/16 01:02 AM
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2014 4x4 eco diesel lone star with 100k lifetime average with Decked tool boxes loaded down is 24.5. I can get 27-28 straight freeway and 18-20 towing my boat.

Run Diesel Kleen and you will pull 8th gear longer and get at least another 1 mpg.

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What gear ratio?

Re: They tried to talk me out of an EcoDiesel, but it didn't work [Re: gander] #11802280 08/29/16 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: gander
Just started doing some looking at these and the first thing I am noticing is most of them in this area at least are pretty loaded out.They are running in the mid to upper 50's.What I am also seeing and I realize these are 4x4 models is the mpg ratings are 16-23 mpg.I believe the rear ends are 3:55 and 3:92.What are you that have these getting mpg wise and what are they rated at and are yours 4x4 or not.These have my interest.Also what are the ratios that you have and have you done any towing with them.Thanks
I have the 3.55 and it's 2WD. Towed my boat once to Fork and back and got 19 mpg. It's a 17' fiberglass boat that weighs about 4,000 lbs trailer, gear, and all.

Lots ones that aren't loaded out at other dealers. Rockwall Dodge had some fairly base-model units, but I wanted one with dual zone climate control and had to go to McKinney to get that.

I believe 4x4 costs you 1-2 mpg and the 3.92 gears cost you 1-2 mpg. So you'd go from 28 highway down to 24-26 highway. On the flip side, towing gears and 4x4 in a gasser half ton usually means 14-15 mpg, so you can't really compare an 18-20 mpg gasser half ton that's 2WD with higher gears to an ED that's 4WD with lower gears.


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Re: They tried to talk me out of an EcoDiesel, but it didn't work [Re: gander] #11802385 08/29/16 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: gander
Just started doing some looking at these and the first thing I am noticing is most of them in this area at least are pretty loaded out.They are running in the mid to upper 50's.What I am also seeing and I realize these are 4x4 models is the mpg ratings are 16-23 mpg.I believe the rear ends are 3:55 and 3:92.What are you that have these getting mpg wise and what are they rated at and are yours 4x4 or not.These have my interest.Also what are the ratios that you have and have you done any towing with them.Thanks

The 16-23 is either a combined estimate or for a different motor than the ecodiesel.

I have a 2015 crew cab short bed ecodiesel and it is rated at 27 mpg hwy. I get 27 average in mixed driving on my 20 mile one way commute driving 65 on the hwy. Have gotten as good as 30.1 on a hwy trip, was 500 miles hwy through a half dozen little towns and 10 miles of gravel road and ranch roads. 65 on the hwy.

Towing our boat which is 4500-5000 lbs 24' fiblerglass center console gets 14-15. Towed a 5x8 trailer with bbq pit on it around a bit this weekend and it gets about 20mpg doing that.

As far as price, I bought a tradesman, crew cab, 4x4, with back up camera, aluminum wheels, the thing where you talk on the phone through the radio, and it ran in the mid 30's before ttl.

I have 3.55 gears. If I had it to do again I think I would get the 3.92's

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Re: They tried to talk me out of an EcoDiesel, but it didn't work [Re: patriot07] #11802812 08/29/16 06:24 PM
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The 16-23 mpg could be combined I suppose...not sure now what it meant was on three different ads that were showing eco diesel and the gears were 3:55 and 3:92....am thinking 3:92's might be a good choice...any announced changes on the 2017 models?..have heard rumors of a little more hp and torque

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I believe a bump in performace is scheduled for the 2018 ym.

Re: They tried to talk me out of an EcoDiesel, but it didn't work [Re: patriot07] #11803213 08/29/16 09:44 PM
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2018 is the next scheduled update for half tons.


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Re: They tried to talk me out of an EcoDiesel, but it didn't work [Re: patriot07] #11803279 08/29/16 10:16 PM
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Just started doing some looking at these and the first thing I am noticing is most of them in this area at least are pretty loaded out.They are running in the mid to upper 50's.What I am also seeing and I realize these are 4x4 models is the mpg ratings are 16-23 mpg.I believe the rear ends are 3:55 and 3:92.What are you that have these getting mpg wise and what are they rated at and are yours 4x4 or not.These have my interest.Also what are the ratios that you have and have you done any towing with them.Thanks
I have the 3.55 and it's 2WD. Towed my boat once to Fork and back and got 19 mpg. It's a 17' fiberglass boat that weighs about 4,000 lbs trailer, gear, and all.

Lots ones that aren't loaded out at other dealers. Rockwall Dodge had some fairly base-model units, but I wanted one with dual zone climate control and had to go to McKinney to get that.

I believe 4x4 costs you 1-2 mpg and the 3.92 gears cost you 1-2 mpg. So you'd go from 28 highway down to 24-26 highway. On the flip side, towing gears and 4x4 in a gasser half ton usually means 14-15 mpg, so you can't really compare an 18-20 mpg gasser half ton that's 2WD with higher gears to an ED that's 4WD with lower gears.
I was just looking on Autotrader have not visited lots yet.Probably will stay south of 635 and check out Ft Worth area also.I live 27 miles south of downtown Dallas...Rockwall,Mckinney is quite the haul for me.

Re: They tried to talk me out of an EcoDiesel, but it didn't work [Re: patriot07] #11804549 08/30/16 05:24 PM
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Just started doing some looking at these and the first thing I am noticing is most of them in this area at least are pretty loaded out.They are running in the mid to upper 50's.What I am also seeing and I realize these are 4x4 models is the mpg ratings are 16-23 mpg.I believe the rear ends are 3:55 and 3:92.What are you that have these getting mpg wise and what are they rated at and are yours 4x4 or not.These have my interest.Also what are the ratios that you have and have you done any towing with them.Thanks
I have the 3.55 and it's 2WD. Towed my boat once to Fork and back and got 19 mpg. It's a 17' fiberglass boat that weighs about 4,000 lbs trailer, gear, and all.

Lots ones that aren't loaded out at other dealers. Rockwall Dodge had some fairly base-model units, but I wanted one with dual zone climate control and had to go to McKinney to get that.

I believe 4x4 costs you 1-2 mpg and the 3.92 gears cost you 1-2 mpg. So you'd go from 28 highway down to 24-26 highway. On the flip side, towing gears and 4x4 in a gasser half ton usually means 14-15 mpg, so you can't really compare an 18-20 mpg gasser half ton that's 2WD with higher gears to an ED that's 4WD with lower gears.
off topic, but never heard of or seen a 17' that went 4000 lbs. Not sure a closed bow I/O would even weigh that much.


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Re: They tried to talk me out of an EcoDiesel, but it didn't work [Re: patriot07] #11804574 08/30/16 05:40 PM
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This boat/motor/trailer is supposed to weigh in at 4500-5000 lbs, it is big time more than any 17 foot bass/bay boat. It pulls far more comparably to our 30' TT than our old 19 foot center console. So far I have only logged 2 trips covering any distance with it and they both were around 14 mpg, but they were both into a pretty strong head wind also. 3.55 gears.


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Just started doing some looking at these and the first thing I am noticing is most of them in this area at least are pretty loaded out.They are running in the mid to upper 50's.What I am also seeing and I realize these are 4x4 models is the mpg ratings are 16-23 mpg.I believe the rear ends are 3:55 and 3:92.What are you that have these getting mpg wise and what are they rated at and are yours 4x4 or not.These have my interest.Also what are the ratios that you have and have you done any towing with them.Thanks
I have the 3.55 and it's 2WD. Towed my boat once to Fork and back and got 19 mpg. It's a 17' fiberglass boat that weighs about 4,000 lbs trailer, gear, and all.

Lots ones that aren't loaded out at other dealers. Rockwall Dodge had some fairly base-model units, but I wanted one with dual zone climate control and had to go to McKinney to get that.

I believe 4x4 costs you 1-2 mpg and the 3.92 gears cost you 1-2 mpg. So you'd go from 28 highway down to 24-26 highway. On the flip side, towing gears and 4x4 in a gasser half ton usually means 14-15 mpg, so you can't really compare an 18-20 mpg gasser half ton that's 2WD with higher gears to an ED that's 4WD with lower gears.
off topic, but never heard of or seen a 17' that went 4000 lbs. Not sure a closed bow I/O would even weigh that much.
Hull is 1,900. Motor is 400. I figured trailer at 800-ish, trolling motor and batteries at another 150, fuel (20 gallons) at 150. Anchor, tackle, fishfinders, misc other gear, etc. at another 200-300 lbs, and I'm somewhere between 3500 and 4000. Probably not 4000, but somewhere in the 3500-3700 range and just rounding up for fairness?


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Re: They tried to talk me out of an EcoDiesel, but it didn't work [Re: redchevy] #11814291 09/06/16 01:02 PM
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This boat/motor/trailer is supposed to weigh in at 4500-5000 lbs, it is big time more than any 17 foot bass/bay boat. It pulls far more comparably to our 30' TT than our old 19 foot center console. So far I have only logged 2 trips covering any distance with it and they both were around 14 mpg, but they were both into a pretty strong head wind also. 3.55 gears.




Took the boat to Choke Canyon this weekend. Dad towed it down with the old Dmax and I towed it home with the ecodiesel. I got 31.2 mpg driving to the lake with me the wife our son and luggage. Drove home with same load plus the boat and got 16 mpg all with the cruise set on 65.

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Nice!

I filled up on Friday and got 29.9 mpg over a total of 522 miles. 17.45 gallons of diesel. No towing. Mostly highway or back road driving from 45 to 70 mph and it included a long trip back and forth to Tyler (160 miles round trip). Pretty crazy to drive 522 miles on a full-size truck and still be over 1/4 tank of fuel.

My fill-ups so far have all been above 27 except for the one tank I had about 100 miles of towing. Loving this truck so far.


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Re: They tried to talk me out of an EcoDiesel, but it didn't work [Re: patriot07] #11814840 09/06/16 06:51 PM
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That's about what I have been getting as well.

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I have a 4dr Laramie 4x4 with 3.92 and average about 22mpg going 70-75mph. Pulled my 16' bay boat over 250 miles and got about 17mpg doing 65mph. I love this truck. I was a Toyota fan but wanted a diesel motor and couldn't be happier. Perfect truck for me and my needs. I plan on getting a 18-19 bass boat and will be glad I have this truck. Anyone get a tuner? I want to but don't want to void my warranty. I heard it will get rid of turbo lag and add about 2-3mpg. I added a flip style tonneau cover and this thing is perfect for road trips. My wife and two kids in car seats, plus all our [censored]- my kids are set for sleeping in portable cribs and strollers. We also had a Lab ride in the truck on the floorboard in the back, but he passed away. He loved the truck as well. He would sleep or sit up with his head on the center console.

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