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#11715754 - 07/10/16 08:21 PM bad fish care
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its that time of year again, when we really all need to start thinking about good fish care, and I have an example from Sat/Sun
yesterday "Saturday" after fishing at Palestine, during a major tournament, things were looking pretty good. This morning "sunday" fishing from the villages where the major had been held, my club members and I counted over 20 DEAD bass in the marina proper, from 3 to 6 lbs each.
Now I don't blame the tourney or its people, I blame the people who came in with either stressed or dead fish that were put back in at the villages.
We all need to start treating these fish as a resourse, just think of all the babys now that will not be made by those great fish that were thrown back either so stressed they died, or were already dead. Thankfully tpw stocks blacks, a loss like that in a state like California, would be devastating to a lake as they no longer stock black bass.
Put some additive in your livewells people, add some ice if its over 85 degree water temp, lets keep these great fish we all love to catch alive for as long as possible. Our lakes can be depleated to a point where bass are no longer available for us to catch.

Sorry this is my rant for the week, but it just made me sick seeing all those beautys dead at the marina at the villages.


Edited by elkhartdom (07/10/16 08:22 PM)
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#11715797 - 07/10/16 08:39 PM Re: bad fish care [Re: elkhartdom]
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Good post. Always add ice, additive, and keep the water recirculating.
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#11715969 - 07/10/16 10:19 PM Re: bad fish care [Re: elkhartdom]
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Saw it on Pool also a couple of weeks ago. Launched after the tournament ended and would see floaters in the marina.

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#11716148 - 07/11/16 06:28 AM Re: bad fish care [Re: elkhartdom]
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Sadly, a lot of tournament people care more about that weekend fix than they do about the effects on fish. They put on a good act about caring for the resource and catch and release is all they do, blah blah. Truth is if tournaments were cancelled because they can't take care of fish it would be a LOT bigger deal than dead fish.

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#11716205 - 07/11/16 07:22 AM Re: bad fish care [Re: elkhartdom]
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Overblown

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#11716763 - 07/11/16 11:52 AM Re: bad fish care [Re: Longeye]
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Originally Posted By: Longeye
Overblown

Overblown?
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#11716781 - 07/11/16 12:00 PM Re: bad fish care [Re: elkhartdom]
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#11716924 - 07/11/16 12:58 PM Re: bad fish care [Re: elkhartdom]
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I just say eat them if they are dead or dying instead of wasting them. It is not like fried bass tastes bad, it is good eats!
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#11716942 - 07/11/16 01:07 PM Re: bad fish care [Re: Bass Buster1]
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Originally Posted By: Bass Buster1
I just say eat them if they are dead or dying instead of wasting them. It is not like fried bass tastes bad, it is good eats!


I think there is a good chance that the people who released them didn't know they were dying.

I love tourneys so I'm not pointing fingers, but I often wonder if it would be better for the resource if we didn't have tourneys during the summer.
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#11716982 - 07/11/16 01:26 PM Re: bad fish care [Re: Longeye]
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Originally Posted By: Longeye
Overblown


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#11717033 - 07/11/16 01:46 PM Re: bad fish care [Re: elkhartdom]
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My thought is if you release it, and it floats, pretty good chance it is dead, if the gills are not red and it don't move its a pretty good chance its dead. Like I said, I don't want to point fingers at media or anyone else, but if your releasing from a tournament, you can pretty well tell whats alive and what aint when you put it into the water.
Point is, most were probably dead when weighed, and yes eating them is a heck of a better idea than leaving them to rot in the water, a better idea is TAKE CARE OF THEM WHEN YOU CATCH THEM!!!!!!!!!
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#11717047 - 07/11/16 01:52 PM Re: bad fish care [Re: elkhartdom]
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Originally Posted By: elkhartdom
its that time of year again, when we really all need to start thinking about good fish care, and I have an example from Sat/Sun
yesterday "Saturday" after fishing at Palestine, during a major tournament, things were looking pretty good. This morning "sunday" fishing from the villages where the major had been held, my club members and I counted over 20 DEAD bass in the marina proper, from 3 to 6 lbs each.
Now I don't blame the tourney or its people, I blame the people who came in with either stressed or dead fish that were put back in at the villages.
We all need to start treating these fish as a resourse, just think of all the babys now that will not be made by those great fish that were thrown back either so stressed they died, or were already dead. Thankfully tpw stocks blacks, a loss like that in a state like California, would be devastating to a lake as they no longer stock black bass.
Put some additive in your livewells people, add some ice if its over 85 degree water temp, lets keep these great fish we all love to catch alive for as long as possible. Our lakes can be depleated to a point where bass are no longer available for us to catch.

Sorry this is my rant for the week, but it just made me sick seeing all those beautys dead at the marina at the villages.


I guess I'm maybe not understanding this post completely. I thought you meant after the weigh-in on Saturday things looked fine, then Sunday morning there were floaters.
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#11717099 - 07/11/16 02:18 PM Re: bad fish care [Re: elkhartdom]
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#11717102 - 07/11/16 02:21 PM Re: bad fish care [Re: elkhartdom]
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Do they offer the dead bass to the public? I'd fill an ice chest fast.
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#11717111 - 07/11/16 02:27 PM Re: bad fish care [Re: elkhartdom]
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Looking at the results, there were 105 fish weighed, 104 live fish released. TPWD has done more than one study documenting post-release mortality in largemouth bass caught during tournaments. Mortality is >30%. 104 x 30% = 31.2 fish. I'd say the loss you witnessed is about normal.

No amount of good fish care and handling is going to eliminate fish loss, especially during this time of year. Tournaments love to tout their weigh/ live release ratios because it gives the false impression that the organizations are protecting our resource. Quietly, they probably could have told you at the scales which fish would make it and which would float within 24 hours. 104 released out of 105 looks great on paper but, when it's really more like 74 out of 105 that survive, no one wants to talk about that publicly.

In the big scheme of things, 30% was nothing since they could have legally kept all 105 bass. But if we want to truly protect the resource and cut down on fish loss, quit fishing tournaments in the dead of summer.

p.s. - Since when is 36 entries a MAJOR tournament? No offense to the Champions.
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