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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/20/16 01:29 PM
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BMCD
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Well I have owned diesels for a long time. My 2015 f250 oil changes cost 125 to 150. Im now doing my own oil changes for 1/2 the cost.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/20/16 01:33 PM
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bradnitro175
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Can we turn this into a post a picture of your 7.3 diesel thread?
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
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06/20/16 01:36 PM
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Ken A.
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Cool buddy.
I pulled my Allison with my Z06 for a while.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: TallBaldCypress]
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06/20/16 02:42 PM
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I think every person in this thread that has owned both diesel and gas say diesel all the way. Typical that the folks who've never owned one would say otherwise. Bingo! Experience speaking. A diesel just handles the load so much better. Gassers are always down shifting and searching for the right gear. I can pull my 27' travel trailer and my tracker boat and set the cruise at 70 if I canted (not safe to do so) and it would just cruise along. It's pretty freakin' awesome. Here she is at LOP after pulling the traveler trailer and boat.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
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06/20/16 02:54 PM
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I would buy a diesel just to look cooler than people that don't have one
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/20/16 02:59 PM
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JacksonBean
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21ft bass boat, want to start driving to some different lakes... What's your rig? It depends on how far and what 21 ft boat. An Allison or Gambler, you'll be fine with a 1/2 ton. A heavier boat and/or a long distance there's no substitute for a diesel. I have both and I can tell you that if you're doing a lot of pulling there's no replacement for the torque you get when fully loaded on a long haul.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
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06/20/16 03:37 PM
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Connor S
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For the record, I'm an Accounting/Finance nerd by day. I ran a statistical analysis on the NADA national averages for Gas vs Diesel truck cost to own, comparing fuel prices/maintenance costs/cost to purchase/etc. A gas truck is more economical if you drive less than 27,250 miles per year, and goes down to 23,400 miles a year if you pull a load on average 1.5 times per month with a 100 mile round trip. So if anyone drives more than that per year,buy a diesel. If you drive less, you're good with a gas. That's only if you're considering the economics of the question. There are many other factors that go into the decision.
Maintenance costs calculated running full synthetic oil in both trucks. Cost to purchase was an average of the big 3 national new and used sales for 2015. Fuel Economy was calculated with some reliable industry reports I have access to and national averages of gas and diesel prices for Q1 of 2016. Obviously there will be some outliers to this equation because of the generality of the data, so my two cents to your question is do your own research between the two trucks you are considering and take into consideration the other factors that are important to you.
My top pick for the research I have done is the Ram EcoDiesel.
Also, 2015 national averages of car accidents with a trailer involved lowers by 13% in the 3/4 ton class vs 1/2 ton class. So statistically a 3/4 ton truck is safer to drive than a 1/2 ton when pulling a load.
Boom.
Please let me know if y'all have any questions.
Tight Lines!
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/20/16 03:44 PM
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Who would want to clean all that soot off their boat? No diesel for me. I used to have a Ford F250 with a V-10 gasoline engine. If I ever wanted another power puller, that would be it.
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
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06/20/16 03:45 PM
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Connor S
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Sorry left a piece out, the break even point for a diesels added purchase cost is 4 years if you drive over the mileage listed above.
I say we fish 5 days a week and work 2.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
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06/20/16 03:47 PM
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JacksonBean
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Pull a load 1.5 times a month? You lost me there.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: BMCD]
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06/20/16 04:00 PM
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Connor S
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Well I have owned diesels for a long time. My 2015 f250 oil changes cost 125 to 150. Im now doing my own oil changes for 1/2 the cost.
^^^ Sure it costs more to change your oil in a diesel per oil change, but what are your intervals? 10,000-15,000 miles for $125-$150 vs a gas that costs $45-$75 for a 5,000 mile interval.. Diesel wins, especially if you're changing it yourself like the smart man above.
I say we fish 5 days a week and work 2.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: JacksonBean]
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06/20/16 04:06 PM
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Pull a load 1.5 times a month? You lost me there. Thatsfor when your boat gets stolen at the lake.....
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
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06/20/16 04:28 PM
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Who would want to clean all that soot off their boat? No diesel for me. I used to have a Ford F250 with a V-10 gasoline engine. If I ever wanted another power puller, that would be it. V-10???? You like visitng the gas station eh? Had two on the ranch they were thirstier than a camel And, the new diesels don't produce soot like the olden days. I've got 60k on my 2013 and never seen it blow any black smoke.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
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06/20/16 04:33 PM
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fouzman
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Who would want to clean all that soot off their boat? No diesel for me. I used to have a Ford F250 with a V-10 gasoline engine. If I ever wanted another power puller, that would be it. V-10???? You like visitng the gas station eh? Had two on the ranch they were thirstier than a camel And, the new diesels don't produce soot like the olden days. I've got 60k on my 2013 and never seen it blow any black smoke. Yeah, they weren't the most fuel efficient but I just hate diesel for all but ranch work.
"Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turn out" - Zachary Troy Schrah - a young man with vision far beyond his years.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
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06/20/16 05:16 PM
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Owned them both. I wouldn't necessarily sell a perfectly good half ton truck for the sole reason of pulling a boat but that being said i have a 2014 F250 and pulling my 21ft skeeter 250 with my diesel vs my fishing partners half ton is night and day IMO. Feels like the diesel pulls and commands the boat while the half ton more guides the boat. Acceleration, uphill and braking obviously better with diesel. But i had the Diesel before the boat. If i had a half ton truck prior to getting the boat, I'd be using a half ton.
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