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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/17/16 06:51 PM
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COHLMEYER
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Yes I did.
I had a 2012 half ton that I used for the first years with my last 21 skeeter. The boat worked the truck all over the road and could literally push the truck right thru an intersection if the speed was right.
Pulling was no big deal really, my concern is stopping power and manageability on the road, the swaying back and forth etc.. From this perspective there is no substitute for a 3/4 ton. I prefer deisel, but the 3/4 6.4 is impressive also.
Obviously the pulling power of the Cummins is exceptional. A nice bonus.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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06/17/16 06:51 PM
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eggs'isled
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here is the thing...i used to have 18 foot boats...and a 1/2 ton was fine...and then I got a Z520C when I had a 3/4 ton Diesel and then decided I would go back to gas since diesel was averaging around $4 a gal... I bought a brand new 2015 Toyota Tundra 4x4 w/5.7l gas...it was horrid and I only had it for 22days...thats right 22 days before trading it in on another 3/4 ton Ford, not only did the boat tell the Tundra what to do while going down the road because of their crappy baby-buggy suspension the gas milage was around 9 miles to the gal - I get in the teens with my 2016 Diesel towing my rig...point being once you get used to a 3/4 ton suspension and the tug of 800+ foot pounds of torque you can never go back to a 1/2 ton gas... come and get me haters - once you go diesel you never can go back...lol Not coming to get you. I have a 5.7L Tundra. It pulls my boat very well. Stops great. Don't know what problems you had with the suspension, but mine is firm. And very predictable. I guess I should be glad I haven't experienced "better". Probably wouldn't be able to afford the addiction. Lol. I tried to like the Tundra again - I've owned 4 other ones prior to my first diesel - I even took it to a shop and spent a grand on swapping out the Bilsteins for Rancho RS 5000's to take some of the "bounce" out of it, I was spoiled by the 3/4 ton suspension for sure...the Tundra pulls strong - plenty of motor...I wish Toyota would make a 3/4 ton and either bring one of their diesels to America or put a turbo on the 5.7 to get the gas milage up...just my two cents...
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/17/16 06:58 PM
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NTX Fisherman
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Chevy 5.3 pulls a steel 2 horse trailer loaded or my boat pretty well. No complaints.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: eggs'isled]
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06/17/16 07:05 PM
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here is the thing...i used to have 18 foot boats...and a 1/2 ton was fine...and then I got a Z520C when I had a 3/4 ton Diesel and then decided I would go back to gas since diesel was averaging around $4 a gal... I bought a brand new 2015 Toyota Tundra 4x4 w/5.7l gas...it was horrid and I only had it for 22days...thats right 22 days before trading it in on another 3/4 ton Ford, not only did the boat tell the Tundra what to do while going down the road because of their crappy baby-buggy suspension the gas milage was around 9 miles to the gal - I get in the teens with my 2016 Diesel towing my rig...point being once you get used to a 3/4 ton suspension and the tug of 800+ foot pounds of torque you can never go back to a 1/2 ton gas... come and get me haters - once you go diesel you never can go back...lol Not coming to get you. I have a 5.7L Tundra. It pulls my boat very well. Stops great. Don't know what problems you had with the suspension, but mine is firm. And very predictable. I guess I should be glad I haven't experienced "better". Probably wouldn't be able to afford the addiction. Lol. I tried to like the Tundra again - I've owned 4 other ones prior to my first diesel - I even took it to a shop and spent a grand on swapping out the Bilsteins for Rancho RS 5000's to take some of the "bounce" out of it, I was spoiled by the 3/4 ton suspension for sure...the Tundra pulls strong - plenty of motor...I wish Toyota would make a 3/4 ton and either bring one of their diesels to America or put a turbo on the 5.7 to get the gas milage up...just my two cents... Well. Rancho's, for what it's worth, are the softest hydraulic shocks made. That was huge step in the wrong direction. The Bilsteins that are factory were better. The Bilstien 5300's or even the 5200's would have been the choice for a firmer ride. Yes....if I hadn't of had the three worst vehicle experiences in the world...back to back to back with Chrysler dodge and jeep vehicles, I might have looked at the dodge Eco diesel. But, my great experiences with my wife and her Lexus vehicles promoted me to look at Toyotas. If nothing else....the service from that company is worth it.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/17/16 07:08 PM
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tx2va07
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This question is going to go both ways. A 1/2 ton is plenty of truck to pull a bass boat around. A 3/4 ton diesel will definitely pull it easier. I drive diesels because I like them and they're more fun. Much easier to get a lot more power out of them than a gasser. If I didn't like modding them and such then I don't think I would buy one just to pull my bass boat around though.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/17/16 07:13 PM
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Laser
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I have owned Ford and Dodge diesels for 30 years. Now i'm about 1 year into a 5.7 Tundra gas and have to admit I really like it. I thought I would never own anything but a diesel. No it does not have quite the pulling power of a diesel but it has sure surprised me how well it does handle a 20ft Ranger.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/17/16 07:14 PM
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05 Z71 5.3 diablo tuner pulls my 99 zx195 no problem plenty power stops fine
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/17/16 07:30 PM
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Cast
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If you can afford a Superduty Power Stroke get it. You won't be sorry. My half ton GMC pulled heavy loads well, but it had trailer brakes and upgrade shocks. The Superduty is just so much better. The only problem I have with towing is I forget I'm towing something. Good thing I can back a trailer.
Cast I have a short attention spa
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/17/16 07:33 PM
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Slade
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I have a 2014 Toyota Tundra with a 5.7 - It pulls my little Triton 186 like it's not even back there
PB 10.58 Joe Pool
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/17/16 07:42 PM
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Slade
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I should add that I have the SRS package, don't know what difference that makes, but it pulls, stops great, rides super smooth. I know its not a 20-22' boat, but I really wouldn't expect it to be any different. Gas mileage is not great, my guess is around 16 mpg when towing, but I don't go very far very often, so I don't keep up with it like alot of people do.
PB 10.58 Joe Pool
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/17/16 07:44 PM
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How much would maintenance costs vary over say 200,000 miles?
I know all will vary. My family has only ever owned gas pickups, although in Louisiana we were never more than 20 minutes from the launch and the terrain was flat. But we've had good luck with all of our vehicles. Pretty much just routine maintenance, oil changes, air filters, and brakes. Considered a diesel to pull my 22' center console. Was told maintenance costs would kill me to stick with gas. Bought an Eco-Boost and 40k miles later I have no regrets. Although it would be nicer to get better than 10 mpg pulling the boat, and that was pulling it to Louisiana on highway. I think the flat Louisiana roads got a little better than 10 and west of Dallas was little lower than 10.
But I've never been in a situation where my boat told my truck what to do. The truck handles the boat quite nicely. Slowing down and stepping on declines are no problem, acceleration on inclines are no problem. Honestly forget boat is behind me some times.
Last edited by sprigsss; 06/17/16 07:47 PM.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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06/17/16 07:44 PM
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eggs'isled
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[/quote] Well. Rancho's, for what it's worth, are the softest hydraulic shocks made. That was huge step in the wrong direction. The Bilsteins that are factory were better. The Bilstien 5300's or even the 5200's would have been the choice for a firmer ride. I was hopeful...the Ford F250 Super Duty's come with Rancho's stock...
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/17/16 08:02 PM
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2009 Ford F150 with the 5.4L V8. I love the idea of diesel, just cant make the math work on the front end. I know they last a long time, but I have 97,000 miles and it is still going fine. Skeeter ZX225. One day maybe I'll move up, but I cant complain right now.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em." - Darrell Royal
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: Chris_K]
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06/17/16 09:15 PM
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SAKS
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No. There is no savings in owning one anymore. They are initially more expensive to the comparable gas truck, the fuel is higher in cost due to the demand these days, and now you have to put exhaust fluid in them now(at least in Fords). Once upon a time it was a great benefit to own one but I think that has gone away.
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Re: Would you buy a diesel just to pull your boat?
[Re: eggs'isled]
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06/17/16 09:43 PM
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MagFluker
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point being once you get used to a 3/4 ton suspension and the tug of 800+ foot pounds of torque you can never go back to a 1/2 ton gas... I bought my diesel for horses but man love towing the boat with it. The suspension and torque make all the difference to me. Chevy 2500HD.
Kyle in NC
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