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#11648691 - 06/05/16 02:16 PM 89 octane non ethanol around Fork
Court Offline
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Registered: 09/26/02
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Loc: Royse City / Emory
Where are you guys with 250 SHO motors getting 89 octane no ethanol fuel around Lake Fork. My lake place is in Board tree so my choices I know of are 89 octane w/eth. at Brookshire's, or 87 non eth. @ Star mart.

And another question, would you rather run fresh 87 non ethanol over 89 w/eth, that may be old from the station, since it does not get sold /used much. I have heard from several sources that the 87 is fine for the SHO. Two certified Yamaha tech's and two Skeeter sponsored guides. One of those motors with 700 hrs and still running strong.

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#11648780 - 06/05/16 03:26 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
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Registered: 08/04/06
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Ask Papamark where it is. I think there's a station In Winnsboro that carries all grades nonethanol
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#11648795 - 06/05/16 03:31 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
danwill12 Offline
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Registered: 05/30/14
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Loc: Florida
If you are concerned about 2 points of the octane rating, go buy a can of Octane Booster. But you should follow the directions thoroughly. If you want, run 50/50 of 89 and or 87 it would figure out a hair above 88. 87 should get the job done, but ask Yamaha first. Read your porcelain on your plugs before and after you switch. Dan

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#11648838 - 06/05/16 04:06 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
Court Offline
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Registered: 09/26/02
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Loc: Royse City / Emory
"Read your porcelain on your plugs before and after you switch."
Interesting, could you explain? I'm guessing that if I burned 87 octane and the porcelain was starting to discolor, that would indicate a detonation out of timing concern?

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#11648844 - 06/05/16 04:12 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
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Loc: Plano/Fork
I don't know of any 89+ non-e gas around. I would run a little Aces in the non-e 87 or use the proper 89 with additives.

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#11648892 - 06/05/16 04:59 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
DKennimer Offline
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Loc: Plano/Fork
Originally Posted By: Court
"Read your porcelain on your plugs before and after you switch."
Interesting, could you explain? I'm guessing that if I burned 87 octane and the porcelain was starting to discolor, that would indicate a detonation out of timing concern?


Too high of an Octane rating can result in carbon build-up. Higher octane fuel burns cooler and slower.

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#11648898 - 06/05/16 05:03 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
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Registered: 09/06/08
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Loc: drake river ranch telephone T...
winnsboro, oil company has all grades in non ethanol (it is all they sell).

right off of 11 on south side of tracks at the 37 (think that is the road) intersection, have to go in from 37 just s of the tracks.

I buy my premium there.
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#11648899 - 06/05/16 05:04 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
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Loc: drake river ranch telephone T...
fyi, 89 is a mix of premium and regular, so I have been told so the issue of not selling much is a moot point.
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#11648944 - 06/05/16 05:46 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: DKennimer]
361V Online   content
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Registered: 11/21/08
Posts: 4627
Loc: somervell county
Originally Posted By: DKennimer
Originally Posted By: Court


Too high of an Octane rating can result in carbon build-up. Higher octane fuel burns cooler and slower.
Too true. So many people DO NOT understand this and have always assumed that higher octane ratings means "hotter" burning fuel so "more power". Quite the opposite as stated above. Your motor/vehicle will not "run better" with higher octane if it is not tuned for the fuel. Higher compression/performance motors tuned for higher octane fuels suffer from lower octane fuel because it actually detonates faster/earlier in the compression stroke causing the "pinging" you hear. That's why it's called "pre-ignition". It may exist but I do not remember seeing any 89 octane non-ethanol fuel around.


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#11648959 - 06/05/16 06:01 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
forkduc Offline
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Registered: 03/28/07
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Loc: Plano,Texas
Star Mart?

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#11648968 - 06/05/16 06:08 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
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Registered: 04/25/16
Posts: 539
Loc: Lake Fork
You asked around Fork, Minnow Bucket hwy 154 , Fishermens one stop FM 515 and there is one on hwy 17 south of FM 515, no need to drive 20+ miles to Winnsboro to get what you are looking for.
As for the octane, 87 should be all you need .
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#11648975 - 06/05/16 06:11 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
Boomstickfishing Offline
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Registered: 11/07/15
Posts: 74
There the store right down the road from lake fork marina the sells e free fuel

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#11649004 - 06/05/16 06:38 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
hopalong Online   content
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Registered: 09/06/08
Posts: 78833
Loc: drake river ranch telephone T...
all stations around fork only carry the 87 octane.
I go to winnsboro to buy the premium non ethanol, not worth the risk in my engine to run anything different.
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#11649018 - 06/05/16 06:52 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: PaPa@fork]
acts2:38-39 Offline
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Registered: 05/31/12
Posts: 284
Loc: Lake Fork
On 515 called Fisherman's 1 stop use this since '06. Plus ring free no problems thank you Jesus!!!

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#11649042 - 06/05/16 07:12 PM Re: 89 octane non ethanol around Fork [Re: Court]
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Registered: 12/23/10
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Loc: Greenville,Texas
Lake Fork resort on Hwy 17.

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