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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: Lowrider20]
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06/01/16 04:13 AM
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One full day of research and this is what I have so far. First I started out by asking the question "What are blanks made out of?" of course I already know this but I had to be 100% Certain. I then searched Carbon / Graphite Plants in OK. Closest one is in Ponca City and they mainly produce Carbon for plastic use. So I know knew that there was no way they were getting the material for their blanks in OK. Not really surprised about that one. Moving on from that. I raised the question as to why to keep it a Secret? Once again, that one is easy. If they were to be outed for not making everything in America their reputation would go down the drain. This is not unique to most other U.S. based companies. We want to feel patriotic about buying something made here in the U.S. so the Company keeps us thinking that we are buying a legit American product. Heres where the real digging began. First I made a list of all the largest blank manufactures both here and foreign. Shikari supposedly supplied Falcons blanks but they went out of business a while ago. I promptly crossed them out. I then started to cross reference multiple blank manufactures. Talon Blanks- No North Fold-No Seeker Rods-NO Hydra-HECK NO Rain Shadow Blanks- Ehh not likely but plausible Batson Blanks- Nada None of these manufactures met the standards I was looking for. Price on the blanks was too high. No way to make a profit unless they jacked up the price almost 100-200% But.... a large business usually buys in bulk. Saves money and time. Simple Capitalism here folks. Decrease your cost, Increase the price, bada bing bada boom you have yourself a profit. So, I started to look into the prices of blanks. Depending on the company, blanks can go from dirt cheap to pretty expensive. Now lets focus more on that big wholesale thing. I found three mass producers of rod blanks from china. You know the ones you can order a million blanks for dirt cheap? Yeah, those guys. All but one are based out of the same province, Weihai China, the Midland of the country. Here are the Three: 1- Weihai Huayue Sports Co. They deal mainly in fishing rods 2- Weihai Dafang- Sort of the same deal as the last one. Only difference is prices in bulk. And the number three spot goes to the most logical one. Of course this is just my opinion. 3- Yiwu China. Yep these guys produce full blown rods. Fuji guides? Sure. AAA Portuguese Cork Handles? Why not. Fuji Reel Seats? Duh. I guarantee you most brands just buy theses and slap some words on it and sell them. Which is crazy. You could buy one rod and absolutely love it then buy another rod that is literally the exact same and hate it. This is all I have for one day. My next step is to figure out where their factory is located. Here is the link to the last Chinese manufacturer listed. www.ginifab.com/fishingrod_casting_rod.html
Last edited by Lowrider20; 06/01/16 04:13 AM.
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: Lowrider20]
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06/01/16 04:15 AM
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All you do is go to the website, click on Custom Promotional Items and scroll down to fishing rods.
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: Lowrider20]
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06/01/16 04:19 AM
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
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06/01/16 04:27 AM
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Stop banging your head against the wall
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
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06/01/16 04:29 AM
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Also, I agree that they are putting Americans to work. It is a great thing to buy something that was touched by someone bleeding red, white, and blue.
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: Lowrider20]
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06/01/16 05:16 AM
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ROGUE RODS manufactures their blanks in White City Oregon. Their Bass rods are excellent and have been in the hands of many West Coast anglers for more than a decade. Check out their website.
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: Lowrider20]
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06/01/16 12:33 PM
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Mark Jones
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Imagine if you put all this energy into something that mattered...
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: Lowrider20]
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06/01/16 12:40 PM
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PowPowOl'Son
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Somebody got butt hurt and is now on a mission!
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
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06/01/16 12:46 PM
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Most all blanks are made overseas due to cost. Then ppl assemble them in the USA after all the parts are imported... And call them "made in USA". This Regardless of where they are made it is really fishy that they aren't transparent with where the blanks are sourced from.
Don't build a brand based on "Built in the USA" and fight to keep your suppliers on the DL for the life of your company....
Seems like a matter of principle to me...
Good luck with your quest for truth, I am interested to know what you dig up. wasn't trying to be rude,,,,,, just trying to make the point that Jaret made & luke18one made. Transparency is just an idea and phrase that everyone is using now days. No one really wants to be transparent. Retailers with their names on products really do not want you to know where those products come from. There are some really GREAT manufacturers making items for retailers and cannot let the public know they are producing those labels. Many trade shows do not even allow the company reps to wear a shirt with the manufacturers logo on it when they attend the trade show. The way I look at it,,,,,if you use it and like it what does it matter where it comes from. if a company puts "Made in the USA" then it should be just that. in my business if any component of the product comes from somewhere other than the USA we must declare that country on the label.
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: Lowrider20]
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06/01/16 12:57 PM
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Dude, if I had that much time on my hands, I'd go fishn, just sayn.
DON'T LET THE CLOTHES FOOL YA Life is too short to fish with a dead cricket! PB: wife of 40 years
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: DBFishing83]
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06/01/16 12:59 PM
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Most all blanks are made overseas due to cost. Then ppl assemble them in the USA after all the parts are imported... And call them "made in USA". This Regardless of where they are made it is really fishy that they aren't transparent with where the blanks are sourced from.
Don't build a brand based on "Built in the USA" and fight to keep your suppliers on the DL for the life of your company....
Seems like a matter of principle to me...
Good luck with your quest for truth, I am interested to know what you dig up. wasn't trying to be rude,,,,,, just trying to make the point that Jaret made & luke18one made. Transparency is just an idea and phrase that everyone is using now days. No one really wants to be transparent. Retailers with their names on products really do not want you to know where those products come from. There are some really GREAT manufacturers making items for retailers and cannot let the public know they are producing those labels. Many trade shows do not even allow the company reps to wear a shirt with the manufacturers logo on it when they attend the trade show. The way I look at it,,,,,if you use it and like it what does it matter where it comes from. if a company puts "Made in the USA" then it should be just that. in my business if any component of the product comes from somewhere other than the USA we must declare that country on the label. I would rather buy made in America ,versus a company that has their blanks made in China or some other 3rd world country. I would rather pay US workers, versus the company spending their money buying blanks and having to spend money on non US workers making $6 per day, and non US company charging freight to bring item into USA, and the US government gets to collect import/duty fees. Much happier if all this money stayed in USA and workers pockets......
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: RedRanger]
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06/01/16 01:37 PM
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I will chime in. Google the city in China where Marco Polo was mayor under the Yuan dynasty. Its no conspiracy by the way. You are on the right track looking into Shikari, they used to make the old Castaway titaniums.
Watch it happen, make it happen, or say what the hell happened. Capt. Phil Harris F/V Cornelia Marie RIP
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: Lowrider20]
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06/01/16 02:25 PM
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"I want rods purely made in America. But I don't want to spend very much on them!"
Some peoples kids
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: Lowrider20]
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06/01/16 02:28 PM
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OSHA EPA TECQ IRS DOJ FED TAXES STATE TAXES LITIGATION GREED And the list goes on and ON and ON... This is why "Made in America" is vanishing and does not mean what it says anymore
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Re: Falcon Blank Conspiracy
[Re: Lowrider20]
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06/01/16 02:43 PM
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Twitter Trump he will put a stop to this.
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