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#11636821 - 05/31/16 07:36 AM Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ?
DarrellSimpson Offline
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Registered: 03/20/14
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I am having troubles finding gas with the least amount of ethanol , I remember another member posted a list of gas stations a while back but I can not get the search engine to locate it without a staggering amount of hits to sift through , could someone please repost the link or list of the gas stations ? . Is there a technique to getting better search results ? I tried ( gas-station ) ( low ethanol ) with ( - , / ) between the words but just cant get it to work . Thanks in advance .

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#11636870 - 05/31/16 08:00 AM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: DarrellSimpson]
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http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=TX

This list is most likely not up to date.
If you are close to Oklahoma border you will have a better chance of finding no ethanol gas at regular gas stations. Some marinas in Texas have no ethanol gas available. Best to call the marinas and ask. That is if anyone ever answers the phone. Most times I call a marina all I ever get is a recording.
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#11636920 - 05/31/16 08:40 AM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: DarrellSimpson]
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Non-ethanol gas is also available all over Arkansas. Evidently there are some states that are more concerned with the damage this stuff does than making Iowa corn farmers rich.
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#11636954 - 05/31/16 08:59 AM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: DarrellSimpson]
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92 octane has substantially less ethanol than 87. Since learning this I only use 92 in my boats, ATVs, and small engines.
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#11636955 - 05/31/16 09:00 AM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: Bob Landry]
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Originally Posted By: Bob Landry
Non-ethanol gas is also available all over Arkansas. Evidently there are some states that are more concerned with the damage this stuff does than making Iowa corn farmers rich.


Has nothing to do with the state of Arkansas being more concerned about damage. Areas where ethanol is required by the US EPA are called "non-attainment" areas (think big cities). These regions have not attained a low enough level of emissions to qualify for "attainment" status (emissions below EPA regs). Non-attainment areas are required to use emissions reducing blendstocks (ethanol) in their motor gasoline.

Arkansas is mostly rural. Even it's larger cities don't have enough vehicles to push it out of attainment status.
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#11636971 - 05/31/16 09:06 AM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: Anchorman]
fouzman Offline
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Originally Posted By: Anchorman
92 octane has substantially less ethanol than 87. Since learning this I only use 92 in my boats, ATVs, and small engines.


No it doesn't. In fact, it may have more ethanol in it to boost the octane rating to 92. There are only two states in the US that have waivers to sell ethanol free premium unleaded. Those are Missouri and Montana. Other states may allow for the sale of non-ethanol and ethanol laden fuel side-by-side so the consumer gets to choose, but the areas where it is sold must have "attainment status". Oregon specifically prohibits this practice.
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#11636980 - 05/31/16 09:10 AM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: DarrellSimpson]
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#11637043 - 05/31/16 09:37 AM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: DarrellSimpson]
bronco71 Offline
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Registered: 02/05/06
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Loc: Farmers Branch/Sulphur Bluff
This **** is why I installed a water seperating fuel filter on my boat and changed my old rubber fuel lines to the newer lines that are ethanol resistant.....

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#11637236 - 05/31/16 10:43 AM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: DarrellSimpson]
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We have a station in Graham that has non ethanol gas......

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#11637297 - 05/31/16 11:00 AM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: DarrellSimpson]
siryaksalot Offline
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Registered: 03/22/16
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i live in burleson and drive all the way to dublin to get 87 ethenol free.i have 20 5 gallon gas cans i fill up when i go.thats all i will ever use in my boat and lawn mower,weed eater ,chainsaw etc.i called mercury and they said 87 ethenol free was the best gas i could use.

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#11637492 - 05/31/16 11:56 AM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: fouzman]
Muzzlebrake Offline
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
Originally Posted By: Anchorman
92 octane has substantially less ethanol than 87. Since learning this I only use 92 in my boats, ATVs, and small engines.


No it doesn't. In fact, it may have more ethanol in it to boost the octane rating to 92. There are only two states in the US that have waivers to sell ethanol free premium unleaded. Those are Missouri and Montana. Other states may allow for the sale of non-ethanol and ethanol laden fuel side-by-side so the consumer gets to choose, but the areas where it is sold must have "attainment status". Oregon specifically prohibits this practice.


Right on. Ethanol can be added to fuel to raise the octane number.
Stoichiometric air-to-fuel ratios of gasoline vs ethanol
Fuel Ratio by mass Ratio by volume
Gasoline 14.7 : 1 —
Ethanol 9 : 1

ethanol or alcohol burns much cooler and is much more inefficient for making power.
In order to make the same power an engine has to burn 1.63 times more ethanol than pure gas and that's why our fuel mileage is so bad in older engines not designed and tuned for it. Put some pure gas in your old boat motor and see how much better she runs. My 5.3 v8 Chevy truck gets 3 to 6 mpg better mileage on pure gas than it does on E10 fuel. If I happen to get a tank of E15 the mileage drops another 2 mpg and the truck loses a lot of pulling power especially dragging my boat.
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#11637498 - 05/31/16 11:58 AM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: DarrellSimpson]
Muzzlebrake Offline
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There used to be a grocery store in Jacksboro that sold pure gas. Filled up my Harley up there one day and it sure did run good coming back home.
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#11637521 - 05/31/16 12:06 PM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: Muzzlebrake]
Anchorman Offline
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Registered: 03/02/15
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Loc: Small Town NE Texas
Originally Posted By: Muzzlebrake
Originally Posted By: fouzman
Originally Posted By: Anchorman
92 octane has substantially less ethanol than 87. Since learning this I only use 92 in my boats, ATVs, and small engines.


No it doesn't. In fact, it may have more ethanol in it to boost the octane rating to 92. There are only two states in the US that have waivers to sell ethanol free premium unleaded. Those are Missouri and Montana. Other states may allow for the sale of non-ethanol and ethanol laden fuel side-by-side so the consumer gets to choose, but the areas where it is sold must have "attainment status". Oregon specifically prohibits this practice.


Right on. Ethanol can be added to fuel to raise the octane number.
Stoichiometric air-to-fuel ratios of gasoline vs ethanol
Fuel Ratio by mass Ratio by volume
Gasoline 14.7 : 1 —
Ethanol 9 : 1

ethanol or alcohol burns much cooler and is much more inefficient for making power.
In order to make the same power an engine has to burn 1.63 times more ethanol than pure gas and that's why our fuel mileage is so bad in older engines not designed and tuned for it. Put some pure gas in your old boat motor and see how much better she runs. My 5.3 v8 Chevy truck gets 3 to 6 mpg better mileage on pure gas than it does on E10 fuel. If I happen to get a tank of E15 the mileage drops another 2 mpg and the truck loses a lot of pulling power especially dragging my boat.


I have been told by a small engine mechanic and a boat mechanic 92 octane had much less ethanol. Wonder where they got that info if what you guys say is true? I'll research this further


Edited by Anchorman (05/31/16 12:09 PM)
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#11637524 - 05/31/16 12:08 PM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: Anchorman]
fouzman Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
Posts: 43072
Loc: Houston, TX
Originally Posted By: Anchorman
I have been told by a small engine mechanic and a boat mechanic 92 octane had much less ethanol. Wonder where they got that info if what you say is true. I'll research this further


Please do. They're wrong.
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#11637528 - 05/31/16 12:09 PM Re: Where to buy Gas with least amount of ethanol ? [Re: DarrellSimpson]
DarrellSimpson Offline
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Registered: 03/20/14
Posts: 100
Maybe I am wrong , but the 2015-2016 Texas Parks and Wildlife Outdoor Annual Hunting and Fishing Regulations says its illegal to run fuel that has more than 10% ethanol , I read an article somewhere that the ethanol is hard on aquatic life , so this is the reason I am trying to get a lower ethanol percentage , and of course to avoid ethanol related headaches with the boat engine and related parts . With lawn mower , weed eater, chain saw , rototiller , and motorcycles I just make sure the carbs are empty when I store them , seems like the ethanol related problems are harder to manage that a dry carb related problem . Even with ethanol fuel stabilizers its hit and miss when problems will occur. The accelerator pump on my sons dirt bike actually disintegrated into small pieces ??

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