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#11627333 - 05/26/16 06:21 AM Fresh bait vs foreign bait
atmadison Offline
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Registered: 06/21/11
Posts: 266
Loc: Euless Texas
I was talking with friends about fishing, as I always do and a unanswered topic came up. It was the use of bait fish from a different water source. I heard that transfering fish is bad and can risk the spread of diseases, is that the same if you just take sunfish and shad? I not sure and if someone could shine a light on this it would really help.

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#11627570 - 05/26/16 08:44 AM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
Aalqaq2 Offline
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Registered: 12/02/15
Posts: 53
Loc: Richardson, TX
To my knowledge, all transport of live fish from one body of water to another is illegal.

That being said, I haven't heard anything regarding dead fish (shad/sunfish on ice).

Hypothetically speaking, I'm sure there is a risk of spreading diseases...and I assume the risk is higher with CPR fishing, Although any "diseased" fish should be easily identifiable. I have to double check on this but I doubt the risk is high enough to worry about.
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#11627643 - 05/26/16 09:14 AM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
Jerod Pontello Offline
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Registered: 03/14/16
Posts: 111
Its not against the law to transfer live bait just the water

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#11627814 - 05/26/16 10:31 AM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
Bill.B Offline
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Registered: 03/11/15
Posts: 14
Loc: Texas, Arlington
You can't . It's listed in the TPWD under
General Fishing Rules & Regulations → Possession and Transport of Exotic Aquatic species.

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#11627837 - 05/26/16 10:43 AM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
Jerod Pontello Offline
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Registered: 03/14/16
Posts: 111
Call your local game warden and he will explain it to you, ive already done it but you may need to here it for yourself to put yourself at ease of getting a ticket

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#11627845 - 05/26/16 10:44 AM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
Jerod Pontello Offline
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Or main office in Austin 18007921112

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#11627863 - 05/26/16 10:50 AM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
Jerod Pontello Offline
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Registered: 03/14/16
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Our group is big into trotlining so it was a big deal not to be able to transfer live bait, i have confirmed it with 2 wardens so if yall hav trouble getting answers contact Steve Stapleton or Chad West, you can get ther numbers from Tyler office

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#11628067 - 05/26/16 11:46 AM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: Bill.B]
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Originally Posted By: Bill.B
You can't . It's listed in the TPWD under
General Fishing Rules & Regulations → Possession and Transport of Exotic Aquatic species.


Key words.
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#11628234 - 05/26/16 12:51 PM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
atmadison Offline
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Registered: 06/21/11
Posts: 266
Loc: Euless Texas
So catching sunfish at a pond and taking it to use as bait at the trinity is illegal unless they are dead?

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#11628254 - 05/26/16 01:02 PM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
kdub#1 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/07
Posts: 1233
Loc: Dfdub
Live fish, including personally caught live bait, cannot be transported from the water body where the fish were caught in or aboard a vessel in water from the water body where the fish were caught. Personally caught live bait can be used in the water body where it was caught.




The "fish were caught in or aboard a vessel in water from the water body where the fish were caught" makes it sound like they are talking about a live well, not a bucket full of sunfish. Im not sure though...
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#11628271 - 05/26/16 01:10 PM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
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Registered: 01/21/09
Posts: 1081
Loc: McKinney, TX
Interesting. I catch crawdads from a local pond and will use them for bait at other locations. So if that is illegal, can I purchase live crawdads from the Asian market and use them for bait in public waterways?

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#11628342 - 05/26/16 01:39 PM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
Jerod Pontello Offline
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Registered: 03/14/16
Posts: 111
You can use live bait as long as you dont transfer the water, example u could take ice chest in the back of your truck with your pond water and get to lake and net bait out and take them to your boat and put em in another ice chest full of lake water, as long as water is not mixed

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#11628690 - 05/26/16 04:17 PM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
erittmueller Offline
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Registered: 07/25/15
Posts: 357
Loc: Irving/Valley Ranch
Keep in mind the purpose is to "prevent the spread of zebra muscles". This helps with the philosophy behind a law. Moving the fish as long as it is native is acceptable but any amount of water could contain juvenile forms of muscles allowing for them to invade the new body of water. That's also why the section talks at length about draining your boat, etc. The part about store bought bait has to do with knowing the water the bait is in did not come from another body of water but from the store. You can use live or dead nongame fish in different bodies of water as long as it is native and not invasive (ex you can't use live tilapia in water body different than where it was caught).

Eric

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#11629040 - 05/26/16 07:37 PM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: Jerod Pontello]
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Registered: 03/30/04
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Loc: Justin, TX
Originally Posted By: Jerod Pontello
You can use live bait as long as you dont transfer the water, example u could take ice chest in the back of your truck with your pond water and get to lake and net bait out and take them to your boat and put em in another ice chest full of lake water, as long as water is not mixed

This is basically what we do. Catch perch or minnows from a tank or creek and put them in a minnow bucket. Once we get to the other body of water we are fishing, we raise the minnow bucket out of the holding bucket and put it in the water we are fishing.

Old timers, including my grandfather, have done this for years and I doubt they change.
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#11629119 - 05/26/16 08:30 PM Re: Fresh bait vs foreign bait [Re: atmadison]
Freeman Clark Offline
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Registered: 03/18/05
Posts: 1346
Loc: Temple, Texas
this hole ordeal is one BIG pile of dung.

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