I haven't fished the 13 Concepts rod, but have heard good things about it. I use the Dobyns Champion 805 CB RM rod. I fish an old greenie curado 5.1:1. The 3.8 is a GREAT reel for slow cranking and can take quite a while to get the llure in, but it can work there, I prefer the more medium speed, however. Good luck,. Hope this helps. Tight liens, keep safe and good luck.
Tight lines, keep safe and good luck.