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#11549917 - 04/18/16 09:40 AM Boating Accident on Fork
Fishn_man Offline
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I heard there was a boating accident around Bell Point on Saturday. Can't find anything about it. Does anyone have a link to news or know the facts about this?

Thanks
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#11551127 - 04/18/16 07:52 PM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
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I know a buddy of mine was hit and his passenger tossed......no injuries but it wrecked his nice boat.....an uninsured gentleman in an old Triton hit him.....all I know
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#11551326 - 04/18/16 09:14 PM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
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Be careful out there lots of yahoos not following boating regs and cutting across in front when approaching head on and passing on the wrong side in boat lanes. Better to shut down than be right and hurt.....we need a refresher post on regs for passing and right of way.

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#11551337 - 04/18/16 09:18 PM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
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I know the guy in the triton he said it was the others guy fault he crossed on to his side of bouys in boat lane

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#11551384 - 04/18/16 09:32 PM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
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Was not aware there was a side in the boat lanes. There are no white lines and some bouys are now in or very close to stumps on the east side lane if you go to the right of them going north, north of bell hump and before 515. Best to always follow boating regs regarding right of way.

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#11551393 - 04/18/16 09:35 PM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
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There is a side to everything rather it be right, left, east, west, north, south, top or bottom

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#11551529 - 04/18/16 10:26 PM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
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We drive right of center on our roads, stands to reason that we do the same on boat lanes.
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#11551536 - 04/18/16 10:29 PM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
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and that is where the confusion begins
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#11551539 - 04/18/16 10:32 PM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
smallblock Offline
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I think what confuses people is that the drivers seat on boats is on the right side. Autos are left side. Might feel to some that you should pass on left side?

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#11551568 - 04/18/16 10:54 PM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Gamblinman]
Rog Online   content
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Originally Posted By: Gamblinman
We drive right of center on our roads, stands to reason that we do the same on boat lanes.


Agree most of the time but next time you are over there notice the line from the last buoy on bell to the last bouy by 515. The ones closer to 515 have drifted right of the actual lane and there are stumps out close to the lane on the right side by 515 just before you reach the last bouy. I will not run right of the bouys heading north of bell hump to 515. Ran that lane before there were bouys and trees still standing and know what's over there. But my actual point was I have had at several boats the last three weeks heading head on towards me in the wider lanes running wot who cut left and across in front of me.....and I was on the "right" side of the bouy. Just because someone is on the perceived wrong side of the bouys does not mean you are in the right when you run over them, know the regs. Btw way I don't know either of the gentlemen involved in the accident and hope all are well.....,

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#11551582 - 04/18/16 11:02 PM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
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#11551636 - 04/19/16 12:33 AM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
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David you deleted your post but spent some time replying and there is a idea there.

Originally Posted By: David Burton
Is it legitimate to use 'Red Right Returning' when the buoy is in the middle of the lane, imagining Red/Green Buoys running north from the Dam/Sea?


smile. Are you returning from sea or leaving. Red Right returning, left leaving. Suppose you could place the red bouy to your left/port if returning and chance running aground. Right returning does not mean go the the right of the red marker. It means to keep it on your starboard side when returning from sea. To be honest never encountered red/green on a inland dammed lake. Just some bouys supposedly marking the center of a clear run that all seem to treat like the center stripe of a road. However in some instances the said bouys do not mark the actual center of the cleared lane and all using may not be aware that the bouy has moved from its center position and running them wide to one side or the other may put them in danger of hitting obstructions.

However, using your logic could alleviate some confusion by marking clear lanes with red and green markers on lakes like fork to denot both sides of a clear lane and use the dam as a point of reference as meaning out to sea.....then you could utilize Right returning when moving away from the dam and left leaving heading towards the dam and other navigation rules between the red and green channel markers. But remember right returning means you keep the red channel mark on your right/starboard side. Now let's get to sinking permanent channel markers and fixing this problem. smile.

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#11551638 - 04/19/16 12:44 AM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Rog]
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Absolutely agree about permanent markers. Toledo used the Red/Green on the LA Side of the main N/S Lanes. I did a little more searching, and the 'center' markers do not denote a stripe down the middle as in cars, but it seems to be the norm on Fork to treat it as such. Less of a requirement, as if you are not head on regardless of the side of the boat you will meet oncoming traffic as, you are to proceed normally following standard right of way rules.

That's why I deleted my previous post... But thanks for bringing up such a sore subject. nuts
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#11551801 - 04/19/16 07:48 AM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
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I've seen several instances where the buoys were a ways away from the boatlanes indicated by Lance's chip. Buoys can drift, GPS not so much, so which do you follow?

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#11551810 - 04/19/16 07:52 AM Re: Boating Accident on Fork [Re: Fishn_man]
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One problem, on lakes with boat lanes marked, is when approaching another boat from behind, which side do you pass? The people that know the rules come around on the right, others come on the left, just like an auto. Some people haul down the boat lane, and then with no ryhme or reason, bolt left or right, never looking. And then there's the boats that haul it, and then shut down right in the middle of the lane, not mention the ones that idle down the lane. Then there's the one that......... popcorn
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