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Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 07:57 PM
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Group of 6 hires 3 guides for 5 days straight. Figure with tip cost for the week is $2,500 per guide. The group fishes by 2s and switches partners and guides each day; round robin. Guides 1 & 2 put their fishermen on good fish; numbers and big fish each day. Guide 1actually puts his guys on 5 & 6 pound fish all five days and has big fish of the week at 8 pounds. Guide 2 has no issue in finding fish Guide 3 basically does zeros everyday, maybe some dinks here and there but ....."struggles" Now after the 5 days are up; Monday--Friday,,,,,,,guide #3 fishes in a pro tournament on the lake he was just guiding on and producing "0" for his clients,,, Saturday (same week) wins the pro tournament with 25#s of fish. What do you think ? 1.) that's fishing 2.) oh well 3.) he did his best 4.) think he earned his $2,500 Just asking what you think ?
For anyone reading this after the first 2,250 views: this is just a scenario,,,,,, a what if. it is not intended to be aimed at anyone or at any time. some posters have suggested that,,,,but this is just my "what if" scenario.
Last edited by Nutman; 04/04/16 02:29 PM.
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 08:19 PM
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Unfortunately I think it happens. Had a guide the 1st time I fished Rayburn same type of scenario, maybe caught a few more fish nothing even remotely considered large had him for 2 days about the only thing I did learn was how to run the lake from the bridge to the dam. Learned later that he was fishing one the majors there the next week. I don't believe this happens a lot but it does happen. No sense in getting upset, at least I learned a little about the lake. I know I haven't answered your question, but I guess to answer it would be oh well and that's fishing.
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 08:26 PM
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I think I'd have damn well known his schedule and used a different guide..... Human nature being what it is, I'm not surprised at the lack of effort to protect his fish......and I'd not tipped him, paid his fee and [censored] you very much....
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 08:44 PM
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess the guide you are talking about is Gleason? If I'm correct in that guess I'm gonna tell you that as windy as it was that week y'all were there, there was absolutely no possible way for him to take a guide party and fish the areas he fished in the tournament.
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
[Re: Neches]
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04/03/16 08:54 PM
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess the guide you are talking about is Gleason? If I'm correct in that guess I'm gonna tell you that as windy as it was that week y'all were there, there was absolutely no possible way for him to take a guide party and fish the areas he fished in the tournament. Why would you say this ? Any of it ? 1.) I did not call out names 2.) I didn't say where/when 3.) what would the weather have to do with it if the other guides caught numbers and BiG fish
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 09:04 PM
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I think if you want to know why things played out as they did you need to contact the guide in question assuming you want fact and not speculation.
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 09:09 PM
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I told you it was just a guess.
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 09:14 PM
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Read the last 6 lines of my post: Just asking "what do you think" I am not looking for a reason why,,,,,,,, it may or may not have been done. Just want to know what the majority of fishermen would think about the scenario
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
[Re: Neches]
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04/03/16 09:16 PM
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I told you it was just a guess. ??? Educated ???
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 09:23 PM
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 09:26 PM
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I would think he was protecting his fish. On big tournament lakes guides that fish tournaments on those waters will never show you their own secrets. Most of the time it's a competitor in the boat with them so can you really blame them? I say yes. Either be a guide or fish tournies. I think it's pretty scum bagish to not give it your all to put guys on fish just to save your own a$$. I also don't condone hiring a certain guide as a fellow competitor just to steal his spots or techniques. Like I said, either guide or fish tournies, not both, atleast on the same body of water.
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 09:30 PM
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Maybe the guide wasn't on fish in protected areas. Who knows, it's fishing. Move on, nothing to see here imo
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 09:38 PM
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 09:41 PM
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Read the last 6 lines of my post: Just asking "what do you think" I am not looking for a reason why,,,,,,,, it may or may not have been done. Just want to know what the majority of fishermen would think about the scenario Fair enough......Since I wasn't there to make a better judgment in the matter I cant choose either 3 or 4. And as not to sound rude or disinterested that leaves out 2. Which leaves me with 1. You cant asses if the guy gave it everything he had or if he earned his money with the info provided without speculating.
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Re: Guide Performance -- what do you think ?
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04/03/16 09:51 PM
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Read the last 6 lines of my post: Just asking "what do you think" I am not looking for a reason why,,,,,,,, it may or may not have been done. Just want to know what the majority of fishermen would think about the scenario Fair enough......Since I wasn't there to make a better judgment in the matter I cant choose either 3 or 4. And as not to sound rude or disinterested that leaves out 2. Which leaves me with 1. You cant asses if the guy gave it everything he had or if he earned his money with the info provided without speculating. OK,,, If this happened, later would you ask the guide WHY he could get on fish enough to win the tournament but not put you on fish the prior 5 days,,,, keeping in mind: $$$$ spent $2,500 Performance of the other 2 guides
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