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#11485407 - 03/18/16 09:09 AM 2009 Fishing
crowsie14 Offline
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Registered: 06/29/12
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Loc: Central Texas
Was 2009 the best big bass year for Texas? Looking through stats, weights and other stuff 2009 seemed to be the best year for Texas statewide. Choke canyon produced two over 15lbs and one over 13lb in one tournament. O.H. Ivie was a hot ticket too. Seemed most lakes or most of all of them fished outstanding that year? Too bad I was still figuring out what college was about! Was it a combination of warm water, grass, good spawn, less pressure?
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#11485448 - 03/18/16 09:25 AM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: crowsie14]
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Registered: 09/28/12
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Loc: Southwest Texas
All of the above I would think, two of those lakes you mentioned have very little fishing pressure even when they are at full pool. I can remember when 25 lbs didn't get you a check on Lake Tyler, or 10.3 was 3rd place big bass!

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#11485465 - 03/18/16 09:34 AM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: crowsie14]
fouzman Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
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Loc: Houston, TX
Originally Posted By: crowsie14
Was 2009 the best big bass year for Texas? Looking through stats, weights and other stuff 2009 seemed to be the best year for Texas statewide. Choke canyon produced two over 15lbs and one over 13lb in one tournament. O.H. Ivie was a hot ticket too. Seemed most lakes or most of all of them fished outstanding that year? Too bad I was still figuring out what college was about! Was it a combination of warm water, grass, good spawn, less pressure?


Have you looked back at the ShareLunker records? I think you might come to a different conclusion. 2009 was a great year and probably the best in recent years, but best? Hardly. Falcon was hot in 09 as were a bunch of other lakes. Then we had a prolonged, severe drought over much of Texas and all fisheries suffered because of it.
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#11485524 - 03/18/16 10:03 AM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: fouzman]
crowsie14 Offline
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
Originally Posted By: crowsie14
Was 2009 the best big bass year for Texas? Looking through stats, weights and other stuff 2009 seemed to be the best year for Texas statewide. Choke canyon produced two over 15lbs and one over 13lb in one tournament. O.H. Ivie was a hot ticket too. Seemed most lakes or most of all of them fished outstanding that year? Too bad I was still figuring out what college was about! Was it a combination of warm water, grass, good spawn, less pressure?


Have you looked back at the ShareLunker records? I think you might come to a different conclusion. 2009 was a great year and probably the best in recent years, but best? Hardly. Falcon was hot in 09 as were a bunch of other lakes. Then we had a prolonged, severe drought over much of Texas and all fisheries suffered because of it.


Most certainly did but that's not where I based my opinion from, best years were 94-95 with 36 sharelunkers with a close second 91-92 with 33 and 09-10 with 33 sharelunkers, not disagreeing with you but why were the three fish over 13lbs during Choke canyon Bass Champs south region 2009 never put in the program? that would have made 08-09 20 lunkers instead of 17. Im just saying the sharelunker program has its up and downs but i don't think it necessarily determines one of the best years for Texas based on registered big fish caught!


Edited by crowsie14 (03/18/16 10:10 AM)
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#11485547 - 03/18/16 10:13 AM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: crowsie14]
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http://newsok.com/article/3849783

You'll find this article interesting. It's about all the big fish from Choke Canyon in the time frame you're discussing. Note the article says Choke was hot then because it had filled up. A bunch of other lakes were hot then, too. Then the drought hit. So, I'll agree that 2009 was the best year in recent history but don't think it was the best year, ever.
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#11485560 - 03/18/16 10:17 AM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: crowsie14]
Kidde Offline
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90's on Fork, bros. Look it up. You'll see my name.

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#11485574 - 03/18/16 10:28 AM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: fouzman]
crowsie14 Offline
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
http://newsok.com/article/3849783

You'll find this article interesting. It's about all the big fish from Choke Canyon in the time frame you're discussing. Note the article says Choke was hot then because it had filled up. A bunch of other lakes were hot then, too. Then the drought hit. So, I'll agree that 2009 was the best year in recent history but don't think it was the best year, ever.


Thanks for the article, i didn't realize that many had died! Not to take away from the OP but what a sharp decline in sharelunkers since 2011, 13 to 12 to 9 to 6 and now only 1 for 2016 with 45 days left.
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#11485593 - 03/18/16 10:39 AM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: crowsie14]
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They are getting caught, but folks are not turning them into the program. I'm aware of at least three eligible fish recently caught and weighed on certified scales which were released.
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#11485934 - 03/18/16 01:50 PM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: crowsie14]
timwins31 Offline
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Originally Posted By: crowsie14
Originally Posted By: fouzman
http://newsok.com/article/3849783

You'll find this article interesting. It's about all the big fish from Choke Canyon in the time frame you're discussing. Note the article says Choke was hot then because it had filled up. A bunch of other lakes were hot then, too. Then the drought hit. So, I'll agree that 2009 was the best year in recent history but don't think it was the best year, ever.


Thanks for the article, i didn't realize that many had died! Not to take away from the OP but what a sharp decline in sharelunkers since 2011, 13 to 12 to 9 to 6 and now only 1 for 2016 with 45 days left.


Yup. Drought and mismanagement are killing the program.

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#11486024 - 03/18/16 02:33 PM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: crowsie14]
Kidde Offline
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I'm not debating here - I'm truly curious how TPWD is mismanaging the program?

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#11486047 - 03/18/16 02:42 PM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: crowsie14]
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Loc: Midlothian, Texas, USA
The turn about in reporting is in my mine being selfish. The fish are returned to the waters they were caught in if the fisherman wants it to. To catch a fish that is a product of all the years previous effort and then say I am not going to turn it in because the program is being mismanaged is about as dump a statement or idea I have ever come across. The person needs to understand the DD they are holding is proof the program works.

As far as the Falcon folks who claim the 7 hour ride in a 200 gal holding aerated tank to Athens is not good for their fish seems to forget about the 7 hrs. the fish just spent in a 30 gal (or less)live well.

These people only bring one word to mine- HYPOCRITES
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#11486185 - 03/18/16 03:48 PM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: Texascajun69]
timwins31 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Texascajun69
The turn about in reporting is in my mine being selfish. The fish are returned to the waters they were caught in if the fisherman wants it to. To catch a fish that is a product of all the years previous effort and then say I am not going to turn it in because the program is being mismanaged is about as dump a statement or idea I have ever come across. The person needs to understand the DD they are holding is proof the program works.

As far as the Falcon folks who claim the 7 hour ride in a 200 gal holding aerated tank to Athens is not good for their fish seems to forget about the 7 hrs. the fish just spent in a 30 gal (or less)live well.

These people only bring one word to mine- HYPOCRITES


Lol wow. I had to read that 5 times before I understood.

So when I catch a DD I need to make sure I thank the SAL program huh? You do know they only breed the pure Floridas right? I mean surely you wouldn't make such a confident statement if you didn't know anything about the program. . .right? You know most lakes have never had a SAL caught in them. . .right? Not every DD caught is a result of the program bud, in fact the vast majority have NOTHING to do with it.

You know, I could really go on and on about how dumb, or dump, your statement is, but it's not worth the time. I'll just suggest that before you start calling other people dumb, you educate yourself a little more on the program, and take some spelling lessons in the process.

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#11486413 - 03/18/16 05:27 PM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: crowsie14]
Kidde Offline
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Registered: 02/15/16
Posts: 203
Still not a single post about the mismanagement. Can someone please learn me on this? I just wanna know where this is coming from and if there is any truth to it.

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#11486780 - 03/18/16 09:00 PM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: crowsie14]
crowsie14 Offline
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Registered: 06/29/12
Posts: 749
Loc: Central Texas
Wish I could answer about mismanagement on the subject I have no idea how they do there procedures or manage the fish, although I do know they're numbers have been declining the last couple years only through there website. I'm up and down on the subject think there's some good aspects as well as some bad, I do think putting the grass carp in Lake Auston was a really bad move on TPWD and it will be a while until we have a fishery that had the potential like Austin. Fork will always be Fork I love going there but 5 hours is a trip for me, they will always produce big ones. With all the rains we have had and a warm winter the next couple of years should be awesome on most fisheries. Even though I was not around in the 90s except for in kindergarten I am hoping for some upcoming years of great fishing and some big fish caught around the state.
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#11486918 - 03/18/16 09:55 PM Re: 2009 Fishing [Re: crowsie14]
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Registered: 12/08/08
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Loc: Boerne, Texas
Choke was soooo low for so long that when the lake filled up the bass had a jungle to hide in. Great spawns, hydrilla was growing and the fish were there. But how about before it filled up??? It sucked just like it does right now. Amistad was decent before it filled and then a few years after it filled it was awesome! Mother Nature can do way more that TPWD will ever be able to do.

If choke ever fills again... Well, I hope someday it fills again. frown



There was a period that the fishing at Choke was so bad that I stopped into Elroy's tackle shop and talked to him. He was convinced that all of the bass were dead, I asked "why" and he was convinced the largemouth bass virus was there. Fishing was really, really bad those couple years. I know I have also read articles where he was trying to eradicate the gar because of the damage they caused to the fishery. If you go there now, you will see ALOT, I mean a WHOLE LOT of gar and the fishing is pizz poor.


Edited by grout-scout (03/18/16 10:13 PM)

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