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#11482515 - 03/16/16 09:51 PM California knot
Flooringit Offline
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Loc: Bella vista .arkansas
I live close to mccleland his son Justin showed me a California knot. But I'll be danged I can't find it on YouTube anyone know if it's a different name ?
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#11482565 - 03/16/16 10:11 PM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
BarryH Offline
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San Diego jam knot?

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#11482643 - 03/16/16 10:57 PM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
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No it starts off like a polamar.
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#11482670 - 03/16/16 11:16 PM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
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Double Palomar Knot maybe?
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#11482841 - 03/17/16 06:47 AM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
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No he feeds through hook back and fourth like a polamar then makes a little loop flips it then twist the lure 7 times after that I forgot that's why I'm trying to find online.
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#11482861 - 03/17/16 07:04 AM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
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Sounds like a San Diego jam knot except with the line doubled through the eye.

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#11482862 - 03/17/16 07:09 AM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
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Double San Diego Jam

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#11482901 - 03/17/16 07:36 AM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
Brad R Offline
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San Diego Jam. And, BoneDiamond and others rightfully call it a double if the line is passing through the eye of the hook twice.

Do this though: learn to tie it as a single, not a double. At first.

It is one of the easiest knots to master. If you use the technique of letting the lure swing to make the loops, it is one of the visually coolest knots to tie especially to your non-angler friends looking on.

The Improved San Diego knot makes a pass through the two lines at the bottom of the wraps at the end of the wraps down toward the hook eye, then pulled back out between the two lines at the top of the wraps.

Once you learn to tie it as a single, about 15 minutes likely, then it would be safe to double up the knot.

Actually, a very good knot, too, and really good if you are tying on a large crankbait with treble hooks hanging off of it all over the place.

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#11482967 - 03/17/16 08:07 AM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
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Double Pitzen is what it sounds like to me.

http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/pitzen-knot


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#11483020 - 03/17/16 08:24 AM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
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Sounds like "The Power Knot" it starts with a doubled San Diego Jam and ends with a palomar.


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#11483085 - 03/17/16 08:43 AM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) Offline
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Try a double uni knot or a double improved cinch knot. Both will be just as strong and allot easier to tie

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#11483175 - 03/17/16 09:17 AM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
LakeForkGroupie Offline
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IS it this knot
Flouro Knot

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#11483284 - 03/17/16 10:06 AM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
Brad R Offline
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Knot nomenclature.

No, a Power Knot is not a San Diego Jam at the beginning, then ending in a Palomar Knot. A San Diego Jam makes its wraps down toward the eye of the hook, not away from it. The looping over the terminal tackle is similar, though, to the end of a Palomar.

And, the Fluoro Knot that Grigsby is tying is nothing more than a 3 wrap, doubled line San Diego Jam . . . unimproved, that is, he doesn't pass between the lines at the bottom and the top.

All good knots . . . I still think since the poster here remembers it as a "California" knot, it is likely some form of a San Diego Jam.

*** Nothing new under the sun here . . . just a guess that any knot we know and tie today was likely used/invented by ancient mariners thousands of years ago.

Brad

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#11484530 - 03/17/16 08:09 PM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
Flooringit Offline
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Hope it's none of those. I will stop in ask him again tomorrow. It does have 3 tag end when done.
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#11484577 - 03/17/16 08:27 PM Re: California knot [Re: Flooringit]
Brad R Offline
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That helps a bit identifying it and eliminating many of the knots we have discussed as possibilities.

Hey! Post back what you find out.

Well, a doubled uni knot ends up with a loop that has to be cut off, so if that counts as two tag ends, it has one more single tag end that is trimmed off, too.

This is the only knot I can think of that comes to mind as possibly fitting with the idea of 3 tag ends.

Many of the members here know Bo James of Nutech jig fame. Bo ties a double uni and you can see him cutting off the equivalent of 3 tag ends.

Take a look!

Brad


Bo James of Nutech tying a Doubled Uni Knot

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