Large "humps" (red) or small ones (blue)

Thanks

Blue looks better to me. Whites are usually in 15-35 feet of water. Sometime they are shallow, so keep checking different humps until you find them.

Any hump can hold sand bass but no hump will always hold sand bass. You have to check them. If you are
looking for a always there don't happen just keep lookin.
Johnny

Johnny, are your teaching trips the same rate? Out here today with the new Garmin, which is my 1st FF, and it seems it would be well worth the money to learn.

the fish can be related anywhere near a hump depending on time if year wind direction can play a role at times and sun light and temps can all play parts in where the fish are located on a hump if they are even present

Tbucket generally they are depending what you want to learn. Give me a call at 8175976598 and we can figure it out.
Johnny

The saddle between humps can be as good as the hump at times.

Thanks, got skunked at EM today, 8 hrs with only one little dink. Still trying to fish with electronics which is a whole different world. Square bills, spinner baits, flipped grass/docks......nada, 'cept a sunburn.

Lessons learn today:
-don't lose the boat plug (Walmart has them for $3.99, bought 3)
-don't get distracted with playing with SI and run the boat aground
-DON'T get mad at momma when we gets hung up because I'm mad at the fish
-Contact Johnny about booking a trip on EM to see how its done!
-DON'T get mad at momma.

That 25 foot hump in the blue circle would get close inspection from me. Don't just fish the flat top of a hump, work the steep dropoffs along the sides as well.

Tbucket the problem with most people when they first start using electronics is they don't have
confidence in them. It will only come when you find fish and drop down and catch fish.
Then you will get to the point that if you don't see fish on the scope you will not fish. Just keep after
it and it will the most important item in your arsenal.
Johnny
P.S. There was 2 guides on Eagle Mountain Friday checking to see if fish was back from the river
1 fish was caught. Most are still up the river spawning. Understand we did not cast on shallow points we
only looked on humps and ridges because that is where we do our trips. Don't like 4 or 5 people slanging lures
means trips to the ER.

tbucket101: Here's a post I made a few years ago re structure fishing for white bass. Hope this is helpful:


5/5/2010

POST #2 How do you find white bass on structure? Here are my recommendations:

1. You need reasonably good electronics and know how to use them. IMO a high resolution B/W depth finder is the minimum needed. Color and side view may speed the process up but are expensive. If you can afford them and feel it is worth the money, then get them. I don't use either - just high resolution B/W. To me, the cost is still too high for the side view. I may upgrade to color when I have to buy my next unit. Good electronics are important so you can distinguish baitfish from the fish you want to catch. Also, so you can zoom in on the water bottom and distinguish between trash and fish lying right on the bottom. You want it to show you what it sees rather than interpret it for you and put pictures of fish on the screen. After you see what a good bunch of fish look like (as when you are over them and catching them readily) you will remember what this looks like and that's what you will be looking for when you go searching other structures.
2. Get a good topo map of the lake and study it for points, humps, drop-offs, roadbeds, etc. A good structure is one where the depth is significantly shallower than water next to it. For instance, humps have deeper water all around them, points have deeper water on 3 sides of them, roadbeds have deeper water on both sides and drop-offs have deeper water on one side. There may be fish anywhere on these structures, but I find that the most likely place for them is at the edges just before it drops off into deeper water. This is particularly true if the point or hump is broad. Most of the productive structures I know of in the Texas lakes I fish are 10 to 18 ft deep with deeper (25+ feet) water next to it. Structures with 25 to 30 ft tops (with 40+ ft next to them) can also be productive if the water is clear enough. In stained water it gets dark fast as depth increases.
3. With map in hand get on the water and locate the structures you see on the map. Use landmarks and GPS points if you have a GPS and the map has some listed. I have been doing it for so long without GPS, I don't feel the need to use them myself. I have a handheld GPS but just don't use it. If you do use one, mark the structure as waypoint and label it so you can get back to it.
4. Favorite structures: I know 3 lakes pretty well. My home lake now is Cedar Creek and I've come to realize it is such a good white bass lake because it is loaded with structures. So far I have found 30 structures where I frequently catch white bass, and I find new ones each year. Some of my favorites among these are (you guessed it) Saint Annes Point, Key Ranch Drop-off, Dam Drop-off, Dam Ridge and southwest corner of Hump Across from Spillway Dam. Eagle Mountain Lake has a lot fewer good structures. I know of ten starting at Pelican Island and going south and east. My favorites are the south edges (drop-offs) of the large flat extending south from Pelican Island, the well known 27 ft hump that is about 100 yards out from the main dam about 100 yards east of its west end, the large tall point just to the west of this dam hump and a hump 24 ft deep not on the map out in the middle of open water between the Boat Club marina and the south end of the lake. At Livingston I counted about 20 structures I fish from the Hwy 190 bridge southward to about 1200 yards south of the Old Hwy 190 roadbed. My favorites are Old Hwy 190 submerged bridges (7 of them and each bridge has 3 structures - both ends and the middle), Submerged Kickapoo Bridge - both north and south sides of it, the point in front of old Frank's Marina, Old submerged Hwy 190 Roadbed where it reaches Trinity River on the east edge of river.

Of all these structures, my very favorite and most reliable are 4 of the submerged bridges on Old Hwy 190 roadbed: the one on the west side of the Trinity River channel, Hell's half Acre bridge, and 2 bridges near the west end of old 190. Submerged bridges, if at the right depth, are ideal structures for attracting white bass. The ones on Old 190 are 10 to 12 ft deep on the road surface with rails on each side 3 ft shallower. Depth under the bridges varies from 22 to 30 ft. Shad feed on the algae on the hard road surface and on the rails. This in turn attracts the white bass. Fish can hang out in the shade of the bridge, and then when they want a meal, they swim up to the roadbed or rail and catch a shad. We park our boat at either end of a bridge or in the middle of it (of course after we find it using our electronics). We catch fish casting on top of bridge road surface, casting down the roadbed and to shoulders at ends of bridge and casting over and pulling bait across bridge rails (which you can do with an inline spinner but not a slab or spoon without getting hung up). I call this last one "rail fishing" and made a post describing it last year. How effective is this bridge fishing? I went to Livingston twice last year. The 1st trip I fished with my sister in mid July, and we went out from 7:30 to 11 AM and caught 110 on the bridges and came in. In early August I fished with long-time friend Randall Lovelace, and we fished the middle half of the day and caught 206 on the bridges. All these sandies were from 13 to 16 inches. All caught on Mepps spinners.

Thanks for all the input. Actually going to a family camping trip next weekend at Livingston, which will be the first time and hopefully be able to get the kids into some sandies.