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Sail fishing #11425705 02/19/16 09:55 PM
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Going to build a rig and hope for fun. I'm used to going to Matagorda but am considering the Port Lavaca / Indianola area just because it looks like there would be opportunity to sail fish no matter where the wind is out of. Hard to see from Google Earth, though if there are many if any accessible public spots on Powderhorn Lake, Chocolate Bay, Vaes Bay, Lavaca Bay etc. Lots of suitable water around there for it, but don't know if we can get to it. Most of the roads look gated and private. Could also drive over to Oyster lake if the wind was right for it.

Anyone have any suggestions in that area for Sail Fishing?

Thanks!

Re: Sail fishing [Re: dbzell] #11428787 02/21/16 08:12 PM
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Really? Nobody?

Re: Sail fishing [Re: dbzell] #11429076 02/21/16 11:29 PM
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i would try to find an area without oysters or deep enough water to keep your baits off the bottom. if your sail line is where your bait can touch the shells, you'll spend all your time untangling the line. at least that's my experience. i'm in no way a pro at it, but i gave all my gear away because it frustrated me so much. i envisioned a relaxing time and it wasn't.
good luck and post up and let us know how you did.

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Re: Sail fishing [Re: smooth move] #11429302 02/22/16 01:25 AM
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I know there is a good place 6 miles down the beach at Matagorda where you can cut to the bay. I just want to find another spot that will work.

Re: Sail fishing [Re: dbzell] #11916787 11/04/16 04:19 PM
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Have the gear ready, headed to Port Lavaca area in two weeks.



Re: Sail fishing [Re: dbzell] #11916849 11/04/16 05:06 PM
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How long are your drop lines? Tell me about your setup. Size of mainline? Drop lines and hooks used, floats etc. Do you use a homemade winch setup? Bait?


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Re: Sail fishing [Re: V-Bottom] #11916963 11/04/16 06:10 PM
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Main line is nylon trot line string, I think is 170#. Floats are made of swimming noodle with a piece of 1/2" pvc glued to the inside. Drop lines are around 2' and have circle hooks on them. Hopefully be able to cast net some bait. Might put a few plastic shrimp on.

Here is a video of the spool before I painted it and made it look cool...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B45qtpW_BrOudTN5VkV2blFIc1k










https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B45qtpW_BrOudTN5VkV2blFIc1k

Re: Sail fishing [Re: dbzell] #11919100 11/06/16 02:05 AM
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I do not have any advise or pointers as I ahave never done this but being a long time trotliner in fresh water I have always been very curious about this. I wonder if this is legal in Texas Kite fishing New Zeland It looks very similar

Re: Sail fishing [Re: dbzell] #11920204 11/06/16 11:18 PM
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be sure to check the TPW rules. there's a bunch of em and i think the length of and number of drops are a couple of them and how far apart they are. also no artifical baits.


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Re: Sail fishing [Re: smooth move] #11921141 11/07/16 04:26 PM
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Believe me, I've done all the research. There is no hook spacing requirement and you can use artificial bait.

http://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoo...evices-for-fish

Sail Line

For use in SALT WATER only. A type of trotline with one end of the main line fixed on the shore, the other end of the main line attached to a wind-powered floating device or sail.


Nongame fish, red drum, spotted seatrout and sharks may be taken with a sail line.
No more than 1 sail line may be used per fisherman.
The sail line must be attended at all times the line is fishing.
Sail lines may not be used by the holder of a commercial fishing license.
Sail lines may be used 7 days a week.
Tag Requirements:
Must have a valid Saltwater Trotline Tag for each 300 feet of mainline or fraction thereof being fished.
Construction and Design Restrictions
Sail line may not exceed 1,800 feet from reel to sail.
Sail and the most shoreward float must be bright orange or red color. All other floats must be yellow. No float may be more than 200 feet from the sail.
A weight of 1 ounce or more must be attached to the line not less than 4 feet or more than 6 feet shoreward of the most shoreward float.
Reflectors of not less than 2 square inches shall be attached to the sail and floats. They must be easily seen from all directions. This applies for sail lines operated from 30 minutes after sunset to 30 minutes before sunrise.
May have no more than 30 hooks.
There is no hook spacing requirement.
No hook may be placed more than 200 feet from the sail.
May be baited with either natural or artificial bait.

Re: Sail fishing [Re: jettyrat] #11921711 11/07/16 08:58 PM
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Not sure if kite fishing is allowed here or not and can't really find anything other that it is not mentioned in the allowable methods on tpwd web site.

Here is a link to a good instructional on building the sail. I didn't do it exactly like it but close.

http://phartattack.tripod.com/sailline.htm

Re: Sail fishing [Re: dbzell] #11922987 11/08/16 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: dbzell
Believe me, I've done all the research. There is no hook spacing requirement and you can use artificial bait.

http://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoo...evices-for-fish

Sail Line

For use in SALT WATER only. A type of trotline with one end of the main line fixed on the shore, the other end of the main line attached to a wind-powered floating device or sail.


Nongame fish, red drum, spotted seatrout and sharks may be taken with a sail line.
No more than 1 sail line may be used per fisherman.
The sail line must be attended at all times the line is fishing.
Sail lines may not be used by the holder of a commercial fishing license.
Sail lines may be used 7 days a week.
Tag Requirements:
Must have a valid Saltwater Trotline Tag for each 300 feet of mainline or fraction thereof being fished.
Construction and Design Restrictions
Sail line may not exceed 1,800 feet from reel to sail.
Sail and the most shoreward float must be bright orange or red color. All other floats must be yellow. No float may be more than 200 feet from the sail.
A weight of 1 ounce or more must be attached to the line not less than 4 feet or more than 6 feet shoreward of the most shoreward float.
Reflectors of not less than 2 square inches shall be attached to the sail and floats. They must be easily seen from all directions. This applies for sail lines operated from 30 minutes after sunset to 30 minutes before sunrise.
May have no more than 30 hooks.
There is no hook spacing requirement.
No hook may be placed more than 200 feet from the sail.
May be baited with either natural or artificial bait.
that's great news. when i was doing it(30 yrs ago) it was popular to tie colored ribbon on the hooks. it lasted so much longer than natural bait. then i thought they made it illegal, but that was 30 yrs ago. i might have dreamed that. i dunno.


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I could not find any thing that confirmed or denied the legality of kite fishing in this manner either, but I do find this method interesting (seems to be popular in New Zealand). I remember seeing people sail line fishing in my early years (if I remember correctly they used jigs on a 1 to 1.5 foot dropper but I am thinking that croaker on a 3/0 or 4/0 circle or Kahle hook would be deadly). I just may have to build me a sail rig and give it a go. I did go to the kite fishing site from New Zealand and looked at their equipment. I liked their long line clips (allows the dropper to rotate freely on the main line) I may try to find or build some to use on my trot lines and possible future sail line.

Re: Sail fishing [Re: jettyrat] #11923387 11/08/16 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: jettyrat
I could not find any thing that confirmed or denied the legality of kite fishing in this manner either, but I do find this method interesting (seems to be popular in New Zealand). I remember seeing people sail line fishing in my early years (if I remember correctly they used jigs on a 1 to 1.5 foot dropper but I am thinking that croaker on a 3/0 or 4/0 circle or Kahle hook would be deadly). I just may have to build me a sail rig and give it a go. I did go to the kite fishing site from New Zealand and looked at their equipment. I liked their long line clips (allows the dropper to rotate freely on the main line) I may try to find or build some to use on my trot lines and possible future sail line.


I looked at some of those swiveling clips on many online stores but they are very pricey. Had to settle for the wal-mart type.
Btw, the trot line tags are only $5. I got 3 - figure 900' is far enough.

Re: Sail fishing [Re: dbzell] #11924215 11/09/16 02:47 AM
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My grandpa used to whip out his sail line on his house boat back in the early 80's. We would anchor up close to some deep hole and he would use tout tails and kelly wigglers. Funny to see that thing haul back in a school of trout after he brought it back in, good times.


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